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PCN NTK followed by County Court Claim @ Southend Airport.

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I have received multiple PCN 'fines' since issue date of 23/09/19, followed by County Court Claim form issued 14/02/20. The offence was for 'stopping in zone where stopping is prohibited' @ Southend Airport. 
Firstly my question is do I follow appeal process on PCN or claim form?
I then assume that I will use the template from post #2 that doesnt say who is driving?

Thanks
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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    jdonners said:
    I have received County Court Claim form issued 14/02/20.

    With a Claim Issue Date of 14th February, you have until Wednesday 4th March to file an Acknowledgement of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. To file an AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox file linked from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread - https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822/newbies-private-parking-ticket-old-or-new-read-these-faqs-first-thankyou 

    About ten minutes work - no thinking required.


    Having filed an AoS, you have until 4pm on Wednesday 18th March 2020 to file your Defence.


    That's four weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.


    When you are happy with the content, your Defence could be filed via email as suggested here:

    1. Print your Defence.
    2. Sign it and date it.
    3. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    4. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    5. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    6. No need to do anything on MCOL, but do check it after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defence received". If not, chase the CCBC until it is.

      After filing your Defence, there is more to do...

    7. Do not be surprised to receive an early copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire. Nothing of interest there. Just file it.
    8. Wait for your own Directions Questionnaire from the CCBC, or download one from the internet - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-n180-directions-questionnaire-small-claims-track , and then complete it as described by bargepole in his 'what happens when' post linked from post #2 of the NEWBIES thread - https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822/newbies-private-parking-ticket-old-or-new-read-these-faqs-first-thankyou"]
    9. The completed DQ should be returned by email to the CCBC to the same address and in the same way as your Defence was filed earlier.
    10. Send a copy of your completed DQ to the Claimant - to their address on your Claim Form.

  • Redx
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    edited 19 February 2020 at 5:56PM
    follow post #2 of the newbies thread
    email a SAR to the DPO at VCS , attaching a copy of the claim form as proof of I D under GDPR
    do the AOS online on friday this week, following the bargepole guide to AOS etc from the links

    draft your defence , there are no templates for a defence , just examples that can be adapted, preferably adapt one from the last 4 to 6 months only , or a bargepole defence

    no chance of any appeal at court stage, you are defending using a defence
    ideally you will defend as keeper
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    This land is likely to be covered by Airport bye laws, where, if the scammer does not know the identity of the driver, different laws apply.  It is all in the stickies, have you not read them?

    Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.




    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • AOS completed.
    Having trouble finding a template which is relevant to airport stop off or from VCS ( Vechile Control Services )
  • Redx
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    example , not template

    look at any example of a defence posted in the last 8 months for any airport, such as EMA , RHA , LJLA as they are all VCS too
  • jdonners said:
    AOS completed.
    Having trouble finding a template which is relevant to airport stop off or from VCS ( Vechile Control Services )
    Vehicle***
  • jdonners
    jdonners Posts: 8 Forumite
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    Further to my previous post in February.
    I have now received the following from Small claims track and the private company.

    Could some offer advice please.

    Thanks in advance 
  • Redx
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    edited 22 May 2020 at 12:18PM
    Read the telephone hearings thread by coupon mad

    Mediation is not recommended for parking cases

    But follow the advice given in that court order and it's deadline date for exchanging the witness statement plus exhibits plus summary costs schedule , in case a face to face standard hearing is pursued ( the usual way of working )
  • beamerguy
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    edited 22 May 2020 at 12:35PM
    The infamous Jake Burgess bubbling over with confidence and making reference to the new Civil Procedure rules ?
    Don't want to knock you off your perch Jake, are you still saying that the fake £60 is lawful and did you sign the statement of truth saying the same ??   If so, a bit dodgy ? maybe you don't understand abuse of process ???

    And the joke is that Jake is so confident ... he offers a discount ????  CONFIDENT ????  
  • Umkomaas
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    Hold your nerve. This kind of letter is starting to seep out from a number of PPCs and in many cases is the precursor to a discontinuation. Trust me, 125 big ones is no bargain!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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