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Preparation of Defence HX / Gladstones
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nosferatu1001 said:As above
Check to make sure YOU have not missed anything. Tell us your deadline.
Yes of course its worth having their WS on here. Do not redact anything unless it IDs YOU and YOUR CASE, nothing eelse. Especially the contract, it MUST be unredacted by the claimant. Theyre not permitted to redact unilaterally0 -
blancswann said:nosferatu1001 said:As above
Check to make sure YOU have not missed anything. Tell us your deadline.
Yes of course its worth having their WS on here. Do not redact anything unless it IDs YOU and YOUR CASE, nothing eelse. Especially the contract, it MUST be unredacted by the claimant. Theyre not permitted to redact unilaterally
Was @nosferatu1001 not clear when he said:Do not redact anything unless it IDs YOU and YOUR CASE, nothing else.1 -
Ok, I've attached their WS & evidence - Just to be clear I have removed all of the defendants names and case references along with vehicle photographs and VRM as these could be used to identify the defendant.0
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#1 They've redacted the client name and address making the contract worthless. They're also not allowed to redact such information as it is core to their claim and is not commercially sensitive.
#2 They've redacted the names and signatures of the signatories ... as above, plus it means there's no way of telling if the signatories were even authorised to sign the contract.
I'm sure there'll be more, but that's what immediately jumps out at me. (Note: I'm assuming they did that, not you. If you did that then please remove said redaction so we can see the original).
PS - you've not redacted the ticket number (page 15) ... whether this matters is debatable as they already know your details and we can't determine anything like that from their PCN reference. It does mean they can associate this forum thread with your specific case though. (And the PPCs often read this forum).2 -
Yep, as above.
Their evidnce of landowner authority is bunk. It doesnt exist. You shoudl be reading EVERY thread yo ucan find where contracts are dissected, because this is key for you - if they cant prove they have authority to ticket, and authority to enforce in court, theyre out of luck.2 -
DoaM said:#1 They've redacted the client name and address making the contract worthless. They're also not allowed to redact such information as it is core to their claim and is not commercially sensitive.
#2 They've redacted the names and signatures of the signatories ... as above, plus it means there's no way of telling if the signatories were even authorised to sign the contract.
I'm sure there'll be more, but that's what immediately jumps out at me. (Note: I'm assuming they did that, not you. If you did that then please remove said redaction so we can see the original).
PS - you've not redacted the ticket number (page 15) ... whether this matters is debatable as they already know your details and we can't determine anything like that from their PCN reference. It does mean they can associate this forum thread with your specific case though. (And the PPCs often read this forum).
Thanks for the heads up on Page 15, I have now removed this and re-saved to post. I'm pretty sure they'll be able to work out which case it is by looking at the part VRM.
Can you add to a WS or change it after you've submitted it?0 -
nosferatu1001 said:Yep, as above.
Their evidnce of landowner authority is bunk. It doesnt exist. You shoudl be reading EVERY thread yo ucan find where contracts are dissected, because this is key for you - if they cant prove they have authority to ticket, and authority to enforce in court, theyre out of luck.0 -
Not much chance of that. Sorry. Doesnt work that way.
We know they redacted it. the point is they are not allowed to do so. There is no commercial confidentiality reasno to redact it, by redacting signatures you cannot check if eg the name is someone who was actually a director
Have you found thiose threads? I wasnt kidding. It is key that you read and understand what is and isnt a valid contract.1 -
You can submit supplementary witness statements plus exhibits to both the court and claimant1
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blancswann said:nosferatu1001 said:Yep, as above.
Their evidnce of landowner authority is bunk. It doesnt exist. You shoudl be reading EVERY thread yo ucan find where contracts are dissected, because this is key for you - if they cant prove they have authority to ticket, and authority to enforce in court, theyre out of luck.
Please be realistic with your questions0
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