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  • conmag96
    conmag96 Posts: 33 Forumite
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    I thought you didn't owe £900?

    So why would you pay £900?

    All I mean is if you are on a cumulative tax code your tax for the current year will be correct and there will be no tax owed.

    This might mean an adjustment when your new employer uses the cumulative tax code.  You need to use a site like listentotaxman to check what that adjustment will be.  Could be a refund to you.  Could be paying a bit more for one week.  But you seemed confident until your latest post that it isn't £900
    As we can call see there’s no problems in my previous tax years or current other than me paying more than I should, nothing to suggest I owe £900

    That’s what I’m going off 
  • chrisbur
    chrisbur Posts: 4,258 Forumite
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    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36

    My old employer did change its name or some sort but I don’t think that made an issue

    Not quite what I asked for, also figures have been rounded I assume and include typo.  I assume that ....

    "Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.

  • Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    I’m not sure if a cumulative code applies to me with my hours ranging from 35/50 a week so my pay is always different every week 
  • chrisbur
    chrisbur Posts: 4,258 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    conmag96 said:

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    I’m not sure if a cumulative code applies to me with my hours ranging from 35/50 a week so my pay is always different every week 
    The point of a cumulative tax code is that it produces the correct tax figure whatever your pay is and however it varies week to week or month to month; it is the normal way that the vast majority of people are taxed.  While you are on a non-cumulative tax code no adjustment will be made if you have over-paid tax until some time after the end of the tax year, when it would be paid by HMRC rather than in your wages by your employer during the tax year.  
  • chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    I’m not sure if a cumulative code applies to me with my hours ranging from 35/50 a week so my pay is always different every week 
    The point of a cumulative tax code is that it produces the correct tax figure whatever your pay is and however it varies week to week or month to month; it is the normal way that the vast majority of people are taxed.  While you are on a non-cumulative tax code no adjustment will be made if you have over-paid tax until some time after the end of the tax year, when it would be paid by HMRC rather than in your wages by your employer during the tax year.  
    Okay I understand thanks for your help it’s just guess work now until the new tax year then HMRC can figure out what’s what 
  • chrisbur
    chrisbur Posts: 4,258 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    I’m not sure if a cumulative code applies to me with my hours ranging from 35/50 a week so my pay is always different every week 
    The point of a cumulative tax code is that it produces the correct tax figure whatever your pay is and however it varies week to week or month to month; it is the normal way that the vast majority of people are taxed.  While you are on a non-cumulative tax code no adjustment will be made if you have over-paid tax until some time after the end of the tax year, when it would be paid by HMRC rather than in your wages by your employer during the tax year.  
    Okay I understand thanks for your help it’s just guess work now until the new tax year then HMRC can figure out what’s what 
    As said before....
    "Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative."

  • chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    Okay I understand thanks for your help it’s just guess work now until the new tax year then HMRC can figure out what’s what 
    As said before....
    "Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative."
    From my payroll manager 
    I have taken a look through your payslip and I can confirm you were on a basic rate tax code until WK 42 (24/01 payday) when the HMRC sent through an updated tax code of 1250L WK1. 

    I can see for WK 42 & 43 you paid a small amount of tax in line with the above, however from WK 43 (07/02 payday) we had notification from HMRC of updated year to date figures for you which has placed you onto a 1250L Cumulative tax code. 

    When the system has calculated tax owed in WK 43 it has taken these year to date figures into account and as such, the total amount of tax due was higher for this reason as you have earnt above the tax free allowance, I can confirm this has been calculated correctly. 

    My recommendation is for you to call the HMRC back and confirm the earnings they have for you for this current tax year against your payslips, unfortunately they will only discuss your personal tax account with you directly so I am unable to speak to them on your behalf. 

    Unfortunately, until we receive an updated notification from HMRC we are unable to make any adjustments to your tax code.
  • chrisbur
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    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    Okay I understand thanks for your help it’s just guess work now until the new tax year then HMRC can figure out what’s what 
    As said before....
    "Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative."
    From my payroll manager 
    I have taken a look through your payslip and I can confirm you were on a basic rate tax code until WK 42 (24/01 payday) when the HMRC sent through an updated tax code of 1250L WK1. 

    I can see for WK 42 & 43 you paid a small amount of tax in line with the above, however from WK 43 (07/02 payday) we had notification from HMRC of updated year to date figures for you which has placed you onto a 1250L Cumulative tax code. 

    When the system has calculated tax owed in WK 43 it has taken these year to date figures into account and as such, the total amount of tax due was higher for this reason as you have earnt above the tax free allowance, I can confirm this has been calculated correctly. 

    My recommendation is for you to call the HMRC back and confirm the earnings they have for you for this current tax year against your payslips, unfortunately they will only discuss your personal tax account with you directly so I am unable to speak to them on your behalf. 

    Unfortunately, until we receive an updated notification from HMRC we are unable to make any adjustments to your tax code.
    These details from your payroll manager do not seem to tie in with the limited details you have given so far.   Without seeing the details I have asked for in past posts I am unable to see what is going on here.
    The figures needed are....
    exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    for each payslip in your new employment.
  • chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 




    re.

    The figures needed are....
    exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    for each payslip in your new employment.
    since December
    Taxable gross £3074
    tax paid £643
    tax code BR until 24/01 now 1250L
    taxable pay from April 2019 £17,504
    tax paid to date £2695


  • chrisbur
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    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783"

    are from your last payslip in currant employment.

    "Previous gross £14,363 week number 36

    Previous tax £1,140 week number 36"

    are from last payslip with old employer.

    If the tax paid figure of £643 is the tax paid in your current employment on a taxable gross of £3141 then the most I would expect to see as tax is something around £628 and that does not allow for the tax code of 1250LX that you show.
    Previous pay and tax are correct on a rough check.
    The tax code of 1250LX is a week 1 tax code and no tax will be adjusted for previous weeks while that code is in use.  Normally either by P45 or notice from HMRC a cumulative tax code (which would allow for adjustment for tax paid earlier) would be given along with details of pay and tax from last employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used. 
    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 





    As I said tax of £643 on taxable gross of £3141 is more tax than would be expected if you were on BR code all the time but your post suggests that you were on 1250LX for the last payment.  In order to see where this tax comes from I would need to see the figures that I asked for in my first post, exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    Would also be a good starting point to check with your employer that the tax code advised by HMRC was 1250L non-cumulative and not 1250L cumulative.
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    chrisbur said:
    conmag96 said:
    csgohan4 said:
    chrisbur said:
    In order to understand this details are required.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    These details from last payslip in old employment and each payslip in new employment, Previous pay tax may be blank on some payslips.
    OP please answer above, otherwise how long is a piece of string

    Taxable gross £3141 new job 

    Tax paid £643

    Tax code 1250lx

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Previous gross £st employment.  You appear to have these pay and tax details but a non-cumulative (week 1) tax code has been used.  

    If this was all you were querying I would say you just need to get your tax code corrected from non-cumulative to cumulative by checking first with your employer if they used the correct code and if they did then with HMRC to see why this non-cumulative code was used. 

    But you keep mentioning owing £900 who told you this and what did they say was the reason for it. 

    So would you say  £643 paid tax since December is about right? That’s averaging on around £70 a week tax is outrageous.. it should be at least half that with the code I’ve always been on, okay thanks for your info.. I was told by Hmrc I owed them 900 because they didn’t documents and info needed in transitioning jobs, as stupid as it sounds that was word for word.. is there anyone I can take this case to because something isn’t right 




    re.

    The figures needed are....
    exact figures if possible not rounded.
    Taxable gross
    Tax paid
    Tax code/basis
    Taxable pay to date
    Tax paid to date
    Previous gross
    Previous tax
    for each payslip in your new employment.
    since December
    Taxable gross £3074
    tax paid £643
    tax code BR until 24/01 now 1250L
    taxable pay from April 2019 £17,504
    tax paid to date £2695


    OK I give up 
    You said originally

    Taxable pay to date from April 2019: £17,474

    Tax paid from April 2019: £1783 

    Now you say

    taxable pay from April 2019 £17,504
    tax paid to date £2695

    Also you still have not given details for each week as requested.

    Best of luck with this but I give up.

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