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  • John464
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     - in contract law there has to be what us referred to as “consideration”. In this context the consideration is parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    do you mean  parking a vehicle on the land for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    not 'in return for'
  • John464 said:
     - in contract law there has to be what us referred to as “consideration”. In this context the consideration is parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    do you mean  parking a vehicle on the land for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    not 'in return for'
    Yes that what I meant 
  • Coupon-mad
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    Same thing.  Don't let John464 take your thread off on a wild goose chase tangent, as he has actively done to ruin other people's threads recently.  Make your own mind up but just don't reply to posts if they are unhelpful!

    Parking_nightmare please read the NEWBIES thread to educate yourself about the POFA and other acronyms as you will not be in a good position if you are asking us about basic acronyms (that affect your defence arguments) at such a late stage.
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  • John464
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    Same thing.  Don't let John464 take your thread off on a wild goose chase tangent, as he has actively done to ruin other people's threads recently.  Make your own mind up but just don't reply to posts if they are unhelpful!
    Do you really think 
     parking a vehicle on the land for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    is the 'same thing' as
     parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises. 

    Or do you just have to disagree with me for the sake of it?

  • KeithP
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    edited 2 March 2020 at 7:23PM
    Do you really think 
     parking a vehicle on the land for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    is the 'same thing' as
     parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises. 

    Or do you just have to disagree with me for the sake of it?
    It is my opinion that both those statements tell me that the vehicle was parked in order to visit the retail premises.

    Presumably you are suggesting only one of those statements means that.
    If so, please tell us what, in your opinion, the other statement means?

    And indeed, does it matter?
  • John464
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    The OP said;
     in contract law there has to be what us referred to as “consideration”. In this context the consideration is parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises

    Basic contract law, Lesson 1
    What consideration means is that in return for your payment to the parking company they have to give you something (called the 'consideration') of value in return
    This is your parking the vehicle to enter the retail premises.
    if you say 'parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises' that changes the meaning.  It implies you are giving the landowner something of value by parking on their land. - in return for their giving you something of value by the right to enter the retail premises.

    The OP understood this straightaway and thanked me for it.
    Coupon-mad and KeithP don't appear to have understood it.
    Coupon-mad has even become rude and abusive to me for pointing it out.

    Sadly this forum seems to have become dominated by a small clique of high volume posters, who have to agree with each other right or wrong, and attack anyone who tries to help by pointing out a mistake.
    They call their own view the forum view, as though they are the forum!   
    As though their own view is the last word and nobody else has the right to post an opinion that differs with theirs.



  • John464
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    KeithP said:


    And indeed, does it matter?


    If it doesn't matter why are Coupon-Mad and yourself challenging it?
    Of course detail matters
    Because cases are won or lost on the detail
    And because getting the details right lets the parking company know you on the ball and a force to be reckoned with.

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 2 March 2020 at 8:29PM
    John464 said:
     - in contract law there has to be what us referred to as “consideration”. In this context the consideration is parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    do you mean  parking a vehicle on the land for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    not 'in return for'
    Yes that what I meant 
    Don't let John464 take your thread off on a wild goose chase tangent, as he has actively done to ruin other people's threads recently. 

    Make your own mind up but just don't reply to posts if they are unhelpful!

    The above is advice for the OP and I see no 'abusive' posting except by the person openly trying to ruin this thread.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • John464
    John464 Posts: 365 Forumite
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    John464 said:
     - in contract law there has to be what us referred to as “consideration”. In this context the consideration is parking a vehicle on the land in return for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    do you mean  parking a vehicle on the land for the ability to enter the retail premises. 
    not 'in return for'
    Yes that what I meant 
    Don't let John464 take your thread off on a wild goose chase tangent, as he has actively done to ruin other people's threads recently. 

    Make your own mind up but just don't reply to posts if they are unhelpful!

    The above is advice for the OP and I see no 'abusive' posting except by the person openly trying to ruin this thread.
    You are doing it again
    I made a perfectly valid point and if one of your clique had posted that I believe you would have thanked them for it
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