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Church commission has mineral mining rights to property?

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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 25,980 Forumite
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    Well, there is the fact that locals there till insist on putting jam on the scone before the cream, even though we in Devon have shown them how to do it properly a million times.

    Proof of an obstinate gene in the pool IMO. Avoid!

    Surely, the bigger question is why you would want cream as well as jam?
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Davesnave
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Surely, the bigger question is why you would want cream as well as jam?
    Pure greed I'm afraid, like wanting all the ore under one's feet, or at least to prevent those who might seek to extract it from doing so. Whoever heard of anyone in London wanting control of the District Line?
  • Ygritte
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Nope.

    The very worst that could happen is that their plot gets mined beneath - no surface working, just extending underground. And any damage to their property arising from that mining would be covered by the people doing the mining. That wouldn't necessarily actually be a vicar, though.

    One of their big worries is it says that they’ll have the right to remove buildings etc. I appreciate it may be unlikely but just the thought that someone has the right to do so is frightening for them.
    Their solicitor has kind of brushed off their worries and they are concerned that they (the solicitor) doesn’t exactly get the implications.
    Thank you for letting me pick your brains.
  • Davesnave
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    Ygritte wrote: »
    One of their big worries is it says that they’ll have the right to remove buildings etc. I appreciate it may be unlikely but just the thought that someone has the right to do so is frightening for them. .
    It's probably less likely than the chance that all property has of being compulsorily purchased for some project, such as a road scheme.
  • Ygritte
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    Here’s the details:

    There are excluded from this registration the mines and minerals excepted by the Conveyance dated 28 April 1964 referred to in the Charges Registerin the following terms and the land is also subject to the following ancillary powers of working:- EXCEPTING AND RESERVING unto the Commissioners and their successors in title all mines quarries minerals and mineral substances whatsoever whether opened or unopened within and under the said property together with full powers for the Commissioners and their assigns and their Lessees and agents and all persons authorised by them or any of them with workmen and others from time totime and at all times thereafter by means of underground workings or operations only to win work get and carry away the said mines quarries minerals substances thereby excepted and reserved and any like mines quarries minerals or mineral substances in upon or under any adjacent or other lands and with full powers for those purposes to withdraw vertical and lateral support from the surface of the said property and from any buildings or works then erected or thereafter erected thereon not withstanding any subsidence or other injury or damage that might thereby be occasioned to the said property or any buildings or works as aforesaid or any other injury or damage or loss what so ever arising whether directly or indirectly from any such workings or operations as aforesaid which might be sustained by the sub-purchaser or his successors in title and his or their lesseesor tenants so nevertheless that the person or persons actually working under or byvirtue of any powers aforesaid should pay to the sub-purchaser or other the owner and the occupiers for the time being of the said property reasonable compensation for or in respect of any injury or damage to be thereby occasioned to any buildings or works then or thereafter erected on the said property such compensation to be fixed if the parties cannot agree by a single arbitrator to be agreed upon between them or in case of their not being able to agree upon 'such arbitrator them by two disinterested persons as arbitrators (one to be chosen by each party) or their umpire and any such arbitration should so far as applicable be governed by the provisions of the Arbitration Act 1950 or any statutory modification thereof provided nevertheless that until the expiration or termination of any lease or tenancy then affecting any part of the said property the rights there in before reserved to the Commissioners and such others as aforesaid should be so modified and the obligations of the persons exercising suchrights to pay compensation in respect of any damage resulting from the exercise ofsuch rights should be so expened as to accord respectively with the reservations in that behalf in favour of and the obligation as to compensation undertaken by the Commissioners or such others as aforesaid contained in each such lease or tenancy respectively so far as concerned that part of the said property which was comprised in and demised or let by such lease or tenancy.
  • Cornwall was famous for it’s tin mines until it became unprofitable to extract it. Tin mines also had a nasty unwanted byproduct nobody had any use for called lithium.

    I wonder whether the next decade will see a resurgence in interest.
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  • paddyz
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    I’ve had old landowners still on my deeds too, don’t worry about it

    Church was the biggest land owner at one time
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  • AdrianC
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    Surely, the bigger question is why you would want cream as well as jam?
    Philistine.

    (I have no preference as to which order, though)
  • diggingdude
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    Remember in the UK we tend to fall behind other countries anyway as its hard to even build a road or trainline without protests and judicial reviews, never mind open up a new (probably polluting) mine. If the house is next to a current mine then it's possible the ground below could be mined but if there isn't a currently operating mine near by the likelihood of one being opened is probably less than that of HS2 getting to Scotland
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