PIP complex budgeting decisions

Hannah2610

_shel wrote: »

I have several diagnosis, borderline personality disorder, complex PTSD, depression and anxiety. And of course epilepsy

You need to put each diagnosis on the application, do not rely on them picking it up from the evidence you send. You need to tell them how each condition affects you, even if it means sending lots of extra sheets of paper.

I have PTSD, major depressive disorder, anxiety and depression. I have also tried to take my own life a few times

They have put all my psychological issues on the epilepsy. As temporal lobe epilepsy can cause major changes in behaviour.

It's nice to talk to someone with such similar issues x

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Hannah2610 wrote: »

I have PTSD, major depressive disorder, anxiety and depression. I have also tried to take my own life a few times

They have put all my psychological issues on the epilepsy. As temporal lobe epilepsy can cause major changes in behaviour.

It's nice to talk to someone with such similar issues x

Mines temporal lobe too, had surgery to remove part of the scar tissue. Which worked well but not good enough, still changed my life.

You really should've told them about each diagnosis.

poppy12345

It doesn't matter if you sent the diagnosis letters or not, you still need to add everything to the forms when you fill them in. When you attended the face to face assessment, did you mention any of those conditions and were any of them mentioned in the assessment report?

Spoonie_Turtle

As stated above, you need to very clearly and specifically state all of your issues - whether they are separate, comorbid, secondary, or medication side effects. The idea is to assess the impact your health has on your life overall - all of your issues, regardless of the cause.

Hannah2610

_shel wrote: »

I have several diagnosis, borderline personality disorder, complex PTSD, depression and anxiety. And of course epilepsy

You need to put each diagnosis on the application, do not rely on them picking it up from the evidence you send. You need to tell them how each condition affects you, even if it means sending lots of extra sheets of paper.

Thank you so much for this. I hope some how I can rectify it in a mandatory recommendation. I can say that my MP would be "more than happy" to help.
And I have spoken to my brother who is a barrister, so I would be taking him with me to a tribunal. I just hope it doesn't come to that and I can somehow turn it around in a MR.

I didn't want to put each condition because I felt that they may look at it and see several diagnosis and think I was a drama queen, when the reality is.... I am. Because I have a lot of issues that effect my behaviour an I have no control over it.

Its refreshing talking to someone with similar issues. No judgement, just understanding x

Spoonie_Turtle

Hannah2610 wrote: »

Thank you so much for this. I hope some how I can rectify it in a mandatory recommendation. I can say that my MP would be "more than happy" to help.
And I have spoken to my brother who is a barrister, so I would be taking him with me to a tribunal. I just hope it doesn't come to that and I can somehow turn it around in a MR.

I didn't want to put each condition because I felt that they may look at it and see several diagnosis and think I was a drama queen, when the reality is.... I am. Because I have a lot of issues that effect my behaviour an I have no control over it.

Its refreshing talking to someone with similar issues. No judgement, just understanding x

A PIP application is not the time to worry about what they might think of you (though it's understandable). These behavioral issues I assume form part of your claim - make sure you include them in every activity that they affect. Anyway, several diagnoses from specialists who know what they're doing indicate that you are NOT a drama queen or exaggerating!

poppy12345

Hannah2610 wrote: »

I didn't want to put each condition because I felt that they may look at it and see several diagnosis and think I was a drama queen, when the reality is.... I am. Because I have a lot of issues that effect my behaviour an I have no control over it.

You haven't answered my question above. Were any of those conditions mentioned during the assessment and were they written in the report? If they weren't then you have problems.

Hannah2610

poppy12345 wrote: »

Is there any reasons why you didn't put this down when you filled out the forms? Did you mention this at all during your face to face assessment? If you didn't then there could be problems with the MR and Tribunal because it's possible they won't take that into consideration because the decision's now been made.


When filling out those forms you must include all of your conditions.

I did put in my application that I had issues with memory and emotions. I also said that my medication effects me too, and sent the evidence "excess slowing is effecting her ability to function, I believe this is due to the medication she is taking." I will of put (my memory is very bad!) that my condition effects my memory and emotions, that I am unhappy and have anxiety. But I doubt I will of listed each condition separate to one another. I really shouldn't of done this without help.
I know the lady at the assesment understood I had issues with anxiety and talking to people, she mentioned this before I did, it's one of the first things she mentioned when walking in the room, "you look a bit anxious and overwhelmed"

(I apologise I don't always make sense and have a tendency to repeat myself ) x

Hannah2610

Its hard to list each issue separately as if they were several different diagnosis, when the reality is, it's one diagnosis with several different issues.
It's upsetting to have to justify that you have these issues.
I would have to justify depression, anxiety, memory, separately as opposed to, I have temporal lobe epilepsy and these are the issues it causes.
I know 100%, the lady at the assesment was well aware that I had issues beyond seizures. I cried throughout the entire thing, with my head in my hands.x

Hannah2610

Spoonie_Turtle wrote: »

A PIP application is not the time to worry about what they might think of you (though it's understandable). These behavioral issues I assume form part of your claim - make sure you include them in every activity that they affect. Anyway, several diagnoses from specialists who know what they're doing indicate that you are NOT a drama queen or exaggerating!

Thank you! I don't know why I found it so hard, I am not ashamed, it just hurts somehow, actually saying how it effects me. Putting it all on paper, even to myself it looks dramatic. But it is a complex condition.
Very hard for people with emotional difficulties. I feel for everyone who feels like I do right now, deflated and like you're having to prove you're not a hypochondriac and you genuinely do have all these issues. I shouldn't of cared what I felt the person reading it would of been thinking. I feel really silly right now.x