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Sky+ Box - Preventing recording

edited 30 November -1 at 12:00AM in Techie Stuff
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  • Sharon87Sharon87 Forumite
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    I recommend Sky Q - you can record 3 and watch one, so there's less clashing, and also the hard drive is bigger, you could buy a larger box as well. Phone Sky to see if you can get over to Sky Q.

    If you've had Sky for quite a while there's also a chance you could be paying too much, new customers get better deals, unless you call to negotiate

    Also - don't forget about the +1 channels and catch up!
  • googlergoogler Forumite
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    If the Sky+ gives the option to record from HD channels, those recordings will hog more room on the HDD.

    Change subscription to exclude HD channels, maybe?

    As was sugggested, upgrade to Sky Q, and optionally apply some Parental Control to the box?
  • giraffe69giraffe69 Forumite
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    Sky Q will mean
    a. a larger capacity box
    b. more programmes that can be recorded at once
    c. the possibility of a separate box if you have a second TV he can watch
    however the Sky website says

    You can use PIN-protected parental controls to restrict the programmes and channels that can be viewed through your TV.

    To set up parental controls, you'll need:

    Your Sky TV PIN. If you're not sure what your TV PIN is or if you'd like to change it, read our Your Sky TV PIN help.
    Your Sky box to be connected to your home broadband or to a phone line.
  • Neil_JonesNeil_Jones Forumite
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    googler wrote: »
    If the Sky+ gives the option to record from HD channels, those recordings will hog more room on the HDD.

    Change subscription to exclude HD channels, maybe?

    As was sugggested, upgrade to Sky Q, and optionally apply some Parental Control to the box?

    The way Sky+ works is that it will not stop you recording channels that you don't subscribe to, so while you can record from (say) BT Sport or AMC from BT (when it was on Sky), you won't be able to play it back unless you have the appropriate subscription. Same applies with HD channels.

    Sky boxes only check you have the appropriate subscription and then decrypt on playback, not on recording - the only check on recording is that you have an appropriate subscription to do that, not whether you can watch it later.
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    giraffe69 wrote: »
    Sky Q will mean
    a. a larger capacity box
    b. more programmes that can be recorded at once
    c. the possibility of a separate box if you have a second TV he can watch
    however the Sky website says

    You can use PIN-protected parental controls to restrict the programmes and channels that can be viewed through your TV.

    To set up parental controls, you'll need:

    Your Sky TV PIN. If you're not sure what your TV PIN is or if you'd like to change it, read our Your Sky TV PIN help.
    Your Sky box to be connected to your home broadband or to a phone line.

    a. Only if they get the 2TB box (I am presuming it's a 1TB HD+ box)
    b. By the sounds of it he'll just record more.
    c. If they get HD+ multiroom that's a possibility however Q records everything to the main box does it not.

    Restricting the channels he views most probably won't affect his recordings, in fact you can still set it to record restricted channels, he'd only need the PIN to view the recording itself (or the channel live).
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Forumite
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    Neil_Jones wrote: »
    The way Sky+ works is that it will not stop you recording channels that you don't subscribe to, so while you can record from (say) BT Sport or AMC from BT (when it was on Sky), you won't be able to play it back unless you have the appropriate subscription. Same applies with HD channels.

    Sky boxes only check you have the appropriate subscription and then decrypt on playback, not on recording - the only check on recording is that you have an appropriate subscription to do that, not whether you can watch it later.

    Don't those two paragraphs contradict each other? Did you miss something out or am I misreading it?
  • googlergoogler Forumite
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    All that the separate Sky Q minibox will do is allow remote access to the main box, it doesn't allow extra storage or such. All recordings are stored on the main box, all recording schedules are there as well, regardless of whether they were instructed from main box or minibox
  • giraffe69giraffe69 Forumite
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    With Sky Q (2tb version) and a second box any problems re space and number of simultaneous recordings are likely to disappear and although it is perfectly true that the mini box doesn't hold its own recordings if there is a second TV son can retire to the room it is in to watch at his pleasure.
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    edited 14 January 2020 at 2:34PM
    Sky Q (2 TB) is the way to go. The HD+ box is too limiting for a enthusiastic Sky addicted family member!



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  • Neil_JonesNeil_Jones Forumite
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    Neil_Jones wrote: »
    The way Sky+ works is that it will not stop you recording channels that you don't subscribe to, so while you can record from (say) BT Sport or AMC from BT (when it was on Sky), you won't be able to play it back unless you have the appropriate subscription. Same applies with HD channels.

    Sky boxes only check you have the appropriate subscription and then decrypt on playback, not on recording - the only check on recording is that you have an appropriate subscription to do that, not whether you can watch it later.
    Don't those two paragraphs contradict each other? Did you miss something out or am I misreading it?

    In a nutshell:
    Sky+HD: Record what you like when you like, doesn't matter what subscription you have, you can record it.

    When you want to watch it back, you need an appropriate subscription for the channel you recorded from.

    So if you don't have Sky Cinema for example you could record Moana from Sky Cinema Disney, but you won't be able to watch it. You'd have to take Sky Cinema to "unlock" the recording.

    Because of the way Sky+ and Sky Q works, the signals are already encrypted when they come from the satellite, all the box does is record them directly to the hard drive in that state.

    So to take the same example again, you record Moana from Sky Cinema Disney, the box records the appropriate stream and data to the hard drive and it sits there in your planner.

    But when you come to play Moana, the software will check through the viewing card that you have an appropriate subscription, and when you do that's when decryption takes place as it plays. The original recording file remains encrypted on the hard drive.
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