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Timing chain gone while having MOT and wasn't made aware.
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What I am thinking is has he drove the 20 miles and caused more damage? There's no way it could have been OK while he was driving it but as soon as I got back in it there was the same problem as the night before?? And then for me to only drive approx 2-3 miles and it just give up all together...
Did he realise it was a big job to do and just fob me off with the car back??? He is only a small garage that generally does MOTs and tyres0 -
No.What I am thinking is has he drove the 20 miles and caused more damage?
Going back to your original...
Do you mean that it was like that from the instant it was started, or did it drive normally for a while before going back into limp/lights? My assumption was the latter.so I happily gave him the money ... and went off in my car..... for all the lights to come back on and it to be losing power again.
If from the moment it was started, then that does make the "jumped a tooth" scenario more likely - but it needed a lot of the same work - the timing chain/gears/tensioner would still have needed changing. If there is internal damage from the chain letting go completely, then that happened at the moment it stopped completely, not while driving with it a tooth out.
The basic problem is that the tensioner failed to keep the chain tight, because of wear. When it let go, it initially slipped one tooth, That let the cam and crankshafts get a bit out of synch with each other. You were lucky that the internals didn't all meet at that point. When it then slipped further, they did...0 -
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Going back to your original...
Do you mean that it was like that from the instant it was started, or did it drive normally for a while before going back into limp/lights? My assumption was the latter.
If from the moment it was started, then that does make the "jumped a tooth" scenario more likely - but it needed a lot of the same work - the timing chain/gears/tensioner would still have needed changing. If there is internal damage from the chain letting go completely, then that happened at the moment it stopped completely, not while driving with it a tooth out.
The basic problem is that the tensioner failed to keep the chain tight, because of wear. When it let go, it initially slipped one tooth, That let the cam and crankshafts get a bit out of synch with each other. You were lucky that the internals didn't all meet at that point. When it then slipped further, they did...
The lights came back on as soon as I started the car up and I drove home with it in losing power as I thought he obviously was fobbing me off so would take to another garage the next morning as this was 8 at night I picked it back up0 -
Did you tell the second garage about your experiences with the first garage? If you did then it is not surprising why they quoted such a high price.0
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Mistral001 wrote: »Did you tell the second garage about your experiences with the first garage? If you did then it is not surprising why they quoted such a high price.
Yes, I told them what had happened. I knew they would give me a high price with knowing the car doesn't run so not able to take it to another garage but didn't think it would be this high. We have the car back as told them I didn't want to do anything til after Christmas but told them I would be in touch in the new year. Does this price sound too much then?0 -
Did he realise it was a big job to do and just fob me off with the car back??? He is only a small garage that generally does MOTs and tyres
He may not have wanted a complex job; but most would be honest and tell you where to take it.
A broken timing chain often gives no warning before it breaks, certainly wouldnt cause dashboard lights to come on. What were those lights?0 -
Did he realise it was a big job to do and just fob me off with the car back??? He is only a small garage that generally does MOTs and tyres
I wouldn't want a garage which generally does MOTs and tyres to do a timing chain repair on my car.
Anyway, you sound like a difficult customer who tries to blame other parties for your car breaking down. It's no surprise garages don't want your custom.0 -
I wouldn't want a garage which generally does MOTs and tyres to do a timing chain repair on my car.
Anyway, you sound like a difficult customer who tries to blame other parties for your car breaking down. It's no surprise garages don't want your custom.
I know he may not have been able to do the repair but he could of least told me there was a problem and advise me what to do. I'm just asking if this could of been prevented if he told me in the first place and didn't drive all those miles in it and if the price I have been quoted from garage 2 sounds right. & Difficult customer? I paid him more than he asked for even though my car came away from him in limp mode and didn't bother him again.....0 -
sevenhills wrote: »He may not have wanted a complex job; but most would be honest and tell you where to take it.
A broken timing chain often gives no warning before it breaks, certainly wouldnt cause dashboard lights to come on. What were those lights?
Engine management, traction control, EPC, low tyre pressure(??) and another one that I can't think of...0 -
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