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Windows 10 can cost £0 ... How has already been posted in this thread.

thorganby

melbury wrote: »

I would rather keep it but it is on Windows 7 and therefore will soon be left without support:(

So you must have deliberately prevented an automatic free upgrade to Windows 10 or you had auto updates switched off and have not been getting regular monthly updates and support anyway!

An SSD would have cost £15 so your comment:

melbury wrote: »

Also I think it would cost me at least £169 to attempt to upgrade my existing machine

is pure fiction!

jonnygee2

No such thing as a Technophobe.
I would have some respect for you if you at least tried. You could be done and dusted within an hour.

It's simple, but it's not that simple when you are coming from a base of no knowledge. You have to find out about each part and make sure each part fits the other (e.g. motherboard is the right socket for the processor, power supply sufficient, case if the right size). To make something half decent you also need a good understanding of each component you are buying and how powerful it is, otherwise you might build something with, say, way too expensive RAM but not enough processing speed.

I think it's perfectly justifiable that someone would prefer to buy a pre-built PC instead of going through all this themselves, especially given that on the budget end there's really no markup for this.

melbury

thorganby wrote: »

So you must have deliberately prevented an automatic free upgrade to Windows 10 or you had auto updates switched off and have not been getting regular monthly updates and support anyway!

An SSD would have cost £15 so your comment:



is pure fiction!

I didn't bother with changing over to Windows 10 when it was free a couple of years ago; it was just easier to ignore it. As far as I can recall it wasn't an automatic update, you had to actually instigate it.

melbury

jonnygee2 wrote: »

It's simple, but it's not that simple when you are coming from a base of no knowledge. You have to find out about each part and make sure each part fits the other (e.g. motherboard is the right socket for the processor, power supply sufficient, case if the right size). To make something half decent you also need a good understanding of each component you are buying and how powerful it is, otherwise you might build something with, say, way too expensive RAM but not enough processing speed.

I think it's perfectly justifiable that someone would prefer to buy a pre-built PC instead of going through all this themselves, especially given that on the budget end there's really no markup for this.

Thank you for understanding:)

Best analogy I can give is that it is just like a car; I know how to drive one, but definitely wouldn't attempt to work on it or repair it.

Believe me there is nothing I would like more than to keep my existing computer, but I didn't bother to get Windows 10 when Microsoft were giving it away, so that ship has sailed. I know people say you can buy a license for a few pounds on Ebay, but surely these are not genuine legit ones - how could they possibly be?

If I were to open my computer up I wouldn't have a clue what was what inside and where to even stick an SSD:(

So unfortunately, pathetic as it may sound, the only way forward that I can see is to replace with a computer that already has Windows 10 on it.:(

mksysb

Not really a good analogy, for a car, you need a garage and expensive tools, and it you get it wrong it could kill you. A computer just needs a screw driver, a table to work on, and if you mess up, so what, you were only going to throw it away anyway.

You are also wrong, in that you can still get a free windows 10 licence if you have windows 7. I don't use windows, and would recommend linux, but I'm sure everywhere will be along in a minute to explain how you can upgrade win 7 for free.

There are plenty of youtube videos with a step by step guide of what to do.

debitcardmayhem

melbury wrote: »

I wonder why EveryWhere has put me on his ignore list.

The only think I can think of is that he got cross with me because I am a complete technophobe and too scared to attempt upgrading my own computer. I wish techie people would understand that some of us simply do not comprehend how computers work and are far too nervous to undertake this type of thing.

Thus replacement is the only option my mind can cope with:(

So why not try ? you have nothing to lose if you can use a a screwdriver you could open the case and have a look, take photos look on you tube for help for installing a second drive (shouldn't need to remove the old one) Installing W10 is free still , people here will help if stuck, cost about 30 quid and at the end of the day you could re-use both drives if you can't figure it out.

EveryWhere

mksysb wrote: »

Not really a good analogy, for a car, you need a garage and expensive tools, and it you get it wrong it could kill you. A computer just needs a screw driver, a table to work on, and if you mess up, so what, you were only going to throw it away anyway.

You are also wrong, in that you can still get a free windows 10 licence if you have windows 7. I don't use windows, and would recommend linux, but I'm sure everywhere will be along in a minute to explain how you can upgrade win 7 for free.

There are plenty of youtube videos with a step by step guide of what to do.

Why would you assert such an untruth? It's been free since it's release four and a half years ago.

EveryWhere

jonnygee2 wrote: »

It's simple, but it's not that simple when you are coming from a base of no knowledge. You have to find out about each part and make sure each part fits the other (e.g. motherboard is the right socket for the processor, power supply sufficient, case if the right size). To make something half decent you also need a good understanding of each component you are buying and how powerful it is, otherwise you might build something with, say, way too expensive RAM but not enough processing speed.

I think it's perfectly justifiable that someone would prefer to buy a pre-built PC instead of going through all this themselves, especially given that on the budget end there's really no markup for this.

What on earth....?

None of the things that you write correspond to the OP, so why bother to make it seem more complicated? They don't need to know anything.
We simply guide them through what to buy and where to put it.
PCs are of a modular design, so it's not unlike sticking a few Lego bricks together.

If you've never clicked a Lego brick together beforehand, you might think you could break it. But no, it just clicks together.
Not that different from a PC. The parts just click in. Takes a few seconds.

It's actually ludicrous to not even try and instead replace the PC. Like throwing away the whole lamp because you are too afraid to change the faulty lightbulb.

Most PCs are designed to have user replaceable parts. So this isn't some complicated issue.

Two screws to remove the side panel. Remove connectors from old HDD and plug them in to new SSD. Replace side panel. That's it. £169 saved and a much improved PC experience.

mksysb

EveryWhere wrote: »

Why would you assert such an untruth? It's been free since it's release four and a half years ago.

Read it properly, I was disagreeing with the OP who said it wasn't free.

I even gave you a mention

"but I'm sure everywhere will be along in a minute to explain how you can upgrade win 7 for free."