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  • mgarl10024
    mgarl10024 Posts: 643 Forumite
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    castle96 wrote: »
    "I'd need to check, but I think someone suggested that when you reach the £6000 withdrawing £600 and putting the SO to £50"
    I'm missing something here... why would you do above ? Is it 'just' to keep the a/c open/earning 3.05% ? Why £600? Why SO of £50 ? (£50 x 12 = £600, so .....?) Please explain.

    I'd have to check the terms (at home) for the ISS4, but http://www.leedsbuildingsociety.co.uk/press/press-releases/2016/09/bonus-for-regular-savers-with-leeds/ says
    The return of 2.30% includes a 1.80% bonus, payable if one single deposit of at least £50 is made into the account every month.
    Up to £250 can be added to the account each month, up to a maximum investment of £6,000.
    So, by withdrawing £600, you can both keep under the £6000 and keep paying in each month - keeping the bonus.
  • mhoc
    mhoc Posts: 19,306 Forumite
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    edited 30 June 2017 at 3:54PM
    castle96 wrote: »
    "I'd need to check, but I think someone suggested that when you reach the £6000 withdrawing £600 and putting the SO to £50"
    I'm missing something here... why would you do above ? Is it 'just' to keep the a/c open/earning 3.05% ? Why £600? Why SO of £50 ? (£50 x 12 = £600, so .....?) Please explain.

    £250 per month standing order will mean I get to the max holding of £6000 in January 2019 (so £250 for 24 months)
    but then you have to factor in any interest that is paid - not sure what the date is when this is paid, need to check this up, put it on the calendar for re doing the calculations .
    So it will be sooner than January 2019.
    What happens after that - would anything over £6000 be automatically returned?
    “Create all the happiness you are able to create; remove all the misery you are able to remove. Every day will allow you, --will invite you to add something to the pleasure of others, --or to diminish something of their pains.”
  • castle96
    castle96 Posts: 2,998 Forumite
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    But WHY are you to withdraw £600/set up SO for £50 ?????
  • steve65e
    steve65e Posts: 154 Forumite
    This is because the account has a maximum balance of 6k, a bonus paid annually (31 Aug), but no maturity date. So you need to find a way to keep getting interest on the maximum (almost) balance when you get there.

    You have to pay in a minimum of £50 pcm to meet the conditions for the bonus (1.8% of the 2.3% total). If you didn't withdraw £600 you would go over 6k and break a different bonus condition. Also if you make more than one withdrawal per bonus year you won't get it.

    This applies to those of us who opened this issue as soon as it came out (Sept 2016). If you opened it mid year you could withdraw less, but you'd still have to take out another £600 at the start of the next year. I think!
  • schiff
    schiff Posts: 20,313 Forumite
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    mhoc wrote: »
    £250 per month standing order will mean I get to the max holding of £6000 in January 2019 2019 (so £250 for 24 months)
    but then you have to factor in any interest that is paid - not sure what the date is when this is paid, need to check this up, put it on the calendar for re doing the calculations .
    So it will be sooner than January 2019.
    What happens after that - would anything over £6000 be automatically returned?

    I opened my Issue 4 in September 2016 and I have notes that interest is paid out on 31/8/17 and 31/8/18 and that the maximum balance is £6000 excluding interest. If the max is £6000 surely you wouldn't bother putting in any more money just to find out what happens to the extra :) HTH
  • schiff
    schiff Posts: 20,313 Forumite
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    steve65e wrote: »
    This is because the account has a maximum balance of 6k, a bonus paid annually (31 Aug), but no maturity date. So you need to find a way to keep getting interest on the maximum (almost) balance when you get there.

    You have to pay in a minimum of £50 pcm to meet the conditions for the bonus (1.8% of the 2.3% total). If you didn't withdraw £600 you would go over 6k and break a different bonus condition. Also if you make more than one withdrawal per bonus year you won't get it.

    This applies to those of us who opened this issue as soon as it came out (Sept 2016). If you opened it mid year you could withdraw less, but you'd still have to take out another £600 at the start of the next year. I think!

    That's it in a nutshell!
  • mhoc
    mhoc Posts: 19,306 Forumite
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    edited 30 June 2017 at 3:52PM
    so with drawing £600 will keep the account viable for another 12 months adhering to the one withdrawal per year condition and minimum deposit of £50 per month to keep the 2.3% interest rate.

    I am only up to month 6 as I was late to the party as usual - so I am playing catch up

    Much easier sums if the interest is not counted as part of the £6 k

    Then in the month I am over £5750 which will be December 2018 schedule the £600 withdrawal in week 3 of that month (and adjust the standing order down to £50) so I am then back down to a total £5150 or thereabouts at 2.3%
    “Create all the happiness you are able to create; remove all the misery you are able to remove. Every day will allow you, --will invite you to add something to the pleasure of others, --or to diminish something of their pains.”
  • johnmoney05
    johnmoney05 Posts: 1,484 Forumite
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    steve65e wrote: »
    This is because the account has a maximum balance of 6k, a bonus paid annually (31 Aug), but no maturity date. So you need to find a way to keep getting interest on the maximum (almost) balance when you get there.

    You have to pay in a minimum of £50 pcm to meet the conditions for the bonus (1.8% of the 2.3% total). If you didn't withdraw £600 you would go over 6k and break a different bonus condition. Also if you make more than one withdrawal per bonus year you won't get it.

    This applies to those of us who opened this issue as soon as it came out (Sept 2016). If you opened it mid year you could withdraw less, but you'd still have to take out another £600 at the start of the next year. I think!

    How about the interest adding in? Surely should be withdrawing £600 + the interest added?
  • steve65e
    steve65e Posts: 154 Forumite
    How about the interest adding in? Surely should be withdrawing £600 + the interest added?

    No, the actual maximum balance is 6k + accrued interest, according to the (paper) t&cs I have. So you don't have to allow for the interest.

    (Many thanks btw to whoever flagged this up first. I't hadn't occurred to me and I probably would have blown my bonus in year 3)
  • surreysaver
    surreysaver Posts: 4,916 Forumite
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    How about the interest adding in? Surely should be withdrawing £600 + the interest added?

    According to the link a few posts up thread, its £6,000 maximum investment. Which means money you put in. Not interest - interest would be outwith the investment. £6,000 divided be £250 is 24 equal payments into the account.
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
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