Fire in property...any advice?

AdrianC

Davesnave wrote: »

Thoughts are one thing, but the fire brigade's report is what matters, provided there's enough evidence to say what happened.

Indeed. And in the absence of that, we can only comment on the information given.

Hobs don't just turn themselves on.
Bags don't turn hobs on.
Bags don't just wander over to the edge of a hob that's turned on.

I know the OP said "induction hob", but you'll excuse me for not regarding that as being necessarily inviolable fact.

need_an_answer

OP What type of bag are you referring to....a plasic carrier,a paper bag,a laptop bag???

My induction hob beeps if it has something put on it,just curious as to what was placed on the hob and its possible contents,could they have contributed to the fire.

Either way,its the report that should give some answers.

Skiddaw1

On the face of it at least, I quite agree- it would be practically impossible to start a fire via an induction hob even if left on (as has been said, they switch themselves off anyhow after a while).



It's a bit of a mystery right enough. I agree- wait for the report and take it from there. Do let us know how things pan out OP.

BombayBadBoy

tom.gladwin wrote: »

Just unsure how to proceed with the letting agent in terms of paying for repair and sorting everything out.

Get this situation in court as soon as possible for a judge to decide it costs £310 to issue a case and you can do it all yourself, you can claim back the £310 cost.

Judges love cases from members of the public with no legal training and tend to rule in their favour whenever possible, and your suing a letting agent, excellent, you will need the fire report, phone the fire brigade and get transferred to the office dealing with the fire report and request they send you a copy.

KatrinaWaves

BombayBadBoy wrote: »

Get this situation in court as soon as possible for a judge to decide it costs £310 to issue a case and you can do it all yourself, you can claim back the £310 cost.

Judges love cases from members of the public with no legal training and tend to rule in their favour whenever possible, and your suing a letting agent, excellent, you will need the fire report, phone the fire brigade and get transferred to the office dealing with the fire report and request they send you a copy.

What does any of this mean?

AdrianC

KatrinaWaves wrote: »

What does any of this mean?

Context: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6086689/freeholder-failed-to-insure-in-joint-names

kdotdotdotdot

I think a lot of posters have very high-tech induction hobs. I've just got a regular model the LL chose. When I was cooking over Christmas, I accidentally switched on the back right hob instead of the back left hob. As my kitchen's small, I use the oven top for extra surface space and I'd put a pack of chopped almonds on the hob (which come in plastic), which - as you can surely imagine - smouldered as the hob heated up. As I was cooking, I could smell the burning but it still took me a little while to figure out exactly what was burning as I was expecting it to come from one of the three rings I was using (or thought I was). No damage done, just smoke from melting plastic packaging/nuts and of course the smoke detector alarm.

So not all induction hobs beep when something is put on them and of course anything placed on top of a hot surface will burn if it's combustible.

My mum has a more intelligent induction hob which won't come on (even when switched on) if it detects not enough weight on the hob. A bit of a pain when using a small saucepan to make gravy as you have to fill it so it weighs enough to register, but that sort of safety measure would have prevented my burnt pack of nuts.

pinkshoes

kdotdotdotdot wrote: »

I think a lot of posters have very high-tech induction hobs. I've just got a regular model the LL chose. When I was cooking over Christmas, I accidentally switched on the back right hob instead of the back left hob. As my kitchen's small, I use the oven top for extra surface space and I'd put a pack of chopped almonds on the hob (which come in plastic), which - as you can surely imagine - smouldered as the hob heated up. As I was cooking, I could smell the burning but it still took me a little while to figure out exactly what was burning as I was expecting it to come from one of the three rings I was using (or thought I was). .

Are you sure this is an induction hob??

They induce a current in a ferromagnetic material, so if you put something that is not magnetic on it, then no current induced and thus no heat. The heat is only induced in the magnetic metal object, the hob itself doesn’t get hot.

If it heats up to touch without something ferromagnetic on it, then it is not induction.

Slithery

kdotdotdotdot wrote: »

I think a lot of posters have very high-tech induction hobs. I've just got a regular model the LL chose. When I was cooking over Christmas, I accidentally switched on the back right hob instead of the back left hob. As my kitchen's small, I use the oven top for extra surface space and I'd put a pack of chopped almonds on the hob (which come in plastic), which - as you can surely imagine - smouldered as the hob heated up. As I was cooking, I could smell the burning but it still took me a little while to figure out exactly what was burning as I was expecting it to come from one of the three rings I was using (or thought I was). No damage done, just smoke from melting plastic packaging/nuts and of course the smoke detector alarm.

So not all induction hobs beep when something is put on them and of course anything placed on top of a hot surface will burn if it's combustible.

My mum has a more intelligent induction hob which won't come on (even when switched on) if it detects not enough weight on the hob. A bit of a pain when using a small saucepan to make gravy as you have to fill it so it weighs enough to register, but that sort of safety measure would have prevented my burnt pack of nuts.

You don't have an induction hob. Induction hobs work by creating an electromagnetic field which doesn't create any heat in itself, it just induces heat in any ferrous metal that's placed on it - the pans themselves heat up instead.

If what you have caused a plastic bag and some nuts to heat up then it's physically impossible to be by induction.

Also the weight of the pan has nothing to do with it - the electronics will detect whether or not there is a ferrous metal object by measuring the output of the magnetic field.

kdotdotdotdot

@slithery and @pinkshoes: in that case I stand corrected. Thanks.