Could another political party evolve?

MaxiRobriguez

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The Labour electorate are divided as is the party. Likewise many people who voted remain . Voted Conservative just to get on with it. As doing nothing was causing the greatest damage.

Out of interest are you a typical Conservative voter or not, and would you consider voting for Labour (or another party) if they were a more viable opposition next time round?

Thrugelmir

MaxiRobriguez wrote: »

Out of interest are you a typical Conservative voter or not, and would you consider voting for Labour (or another party) if they were a more viable opposition next time round?

What's a typical Conservative voter. Looking back to where my parents came from. I struggle these days to know what a typical Labour voter is. We live in very different times in a matter of a few decades.

coastline

Labour just needs to get back to the middle ground with a new leader but so far I'm not sure the new candidates will inspire the voters . In general plans should be straightforward. Protect what we have such as State pensions, NHS , Education etc. Solutions to care for the elderly and student loans etc. Make sure various sectors all get an annual wage increase and don't neglect anyone.
Its all about the economy and jobs really and not fiddling with a few billion pounds here and there in the budget. How to create more jobs outside the SE of England has always been an issue and if this could be improved then folk would be far happier. Somehow I still see this as a struggle.
Labours only chance now will be a deep recession where the general public blame the government for their falling living standards.
Hopefully they don't need to be told to respect a vote in future but you never know.
Don't think forming a new party will be the answer as folk have enough to think about with their daily lives. Its not about politics to most people.

MaxiRobriguez

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What's a typical Conservative voter. Looking back to where my parents came from. I struggle these days to know what a typical Labour voter is. We live in very different times in a matter of a few decades.

Sorry, poorly worded question. Do you usually vote Conservative?

fatbeetle

triathlon wrote: »

I will elaborate just a little more.
I am not totally unaware of many of the problems there are in the UK, and more so the poor working class areas Labour once run. So why have these communities turned their back on Labour and run to the hated Tories, why has Brexit and immigration got to them so much that they are willing to join the enemy.

Despite the rumours, there are still many millions of hard working men and women on low wages.However, when they saw Labour turn their backs on them, and become the party of the Islington Elite, who were only interested in exorcising their middle class guilt, and patronising every minority group, they decided to look elsewhere. Not ontly that but Labour offered nothing but misery, no optimism, they told the working class to get on with working hard, (if your job wasn't being done by a Polish immigrant for half the wage now,) , so that Labour could guarantee that disabled Somali Lesbians could get more Arts Council funding.

harz99

coastline wrote: »

Labour just needs to get back to the middle ground with a new leader but so far I'm not sure the new candidates will inspire the voters . In general plans should be straightforward. Protect what we have such as State pensions, NHS , Education etc. Solutions to care for the elderly and student loans etc. Make sure various sectors all get an annual wage increase and don't neglect anyone.
Its all about the economy and jobs really and not fiddling with a few billion pounds here and there in the budget. How to create more jobs outside the SE of England has always been an issue and if this could be improved then folk would be far happier. Somehow I still see this as a struggle.
Labours only chance now will be a deep recession where the general public blame the government for their falling living standards.
Hopefully they don't need to be told to respect a vote in future but you never know.
Don't think forming a new party will be the answer as folk have enough to think about with their daily lives. Its not about politics to most people.

Agree with pretty much all of that, trouble is the Party appear to be viewing Long-Bailey and Rayner as a sort of dream ticket which is never going to work as both are hard left haridans from the Corbynista/Momentumite camps. The party is completely ignoring the Labour voting electorate, which as Tony Blair knew isn't the way to get elected into Government. Labour will never appeal to the electorate again unless it goes back to a more centrist position, like him or not Blair was elected and reelected a total of 3 times which would never have happened if a faction like Momentum had been pulling his strings. Step one boot out Momentum and let them form their own political party.