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File sharing (or rather files to not be shared)?

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  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
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    Person A and person B in our household opted for PC A and PC B

    Do you have room for two PCs?
  • Neil_Jones wrote: »
    So if I was to tell you yes it can be done, you would be happy, yes?
    Well yes, since it's what i want to achieve.
    If i told you that although you've been failing to win the lottery, this week you WILL win it, you'd be happy wouldn't you?

    So External drives, NAS drives, cloud drives are all valid contributions to your post.
    The problem is, if i say i want to achieve this, people get upset because they want to suggest other things.
    If i say i don't want to do those other things then people get upset because they feel they've wasted their time.



    Yes their other points may well be valid but if it's not the route you want to go then it's not the route you want to go. Doesn't stop people getting upset though.
    So in the end you can't win as people just think you're being difficult because you're not following the way they'll do it.
  • arciere
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    Ok, I'll stop here. Keep doing what you are doing if you think that it suits you, we have only tried to tell you that it is not secure and anyone who want to access your data will be easily able to do so. If you are not worried about it, then no point in asking.

    To be honest, if that is the level of security you need to achieve, you could have simply renamed your folders "MINE_DO_NOT_OPEN"
  • Neil_Jones
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    The problem is, if i say i want to achieve this, people get upset because they want to suggest other things.
    If i say i don't want to do those other things then people get upset because they feel they've wasted their time.

    Yes their other points may well be valid but if it's not the route you want to go then it's not the route you want to go. Doesn't stop people getting upset though.
    So in the end you can't win as people just think you're being difficult because you're not following the way they'll do it.

    There's a difference between "I want to do it my way, end of discussion" and "I hear what you're saying but I've done it this way because... <insert good reason here> however it's food for thought and I will consider it [even though you have no intention of doing any such thing but you don't write that!]".

    Which one of these approaches do you think antagonises others? To be honest I've seen your other posts elsewhere on here and its hardly surprising you think people jump down your throat sometimes. But I'm not going to say anymore on that.

    Easiest solution to your original post: Do what you like if it makes you happy. Your computer after all.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    One problem you have is you are trying to deal with a task that typically administrator on multiuser systems where the users are not administrators without understanding the basics on administration rights and setting up user profiles that don't have admin privileges.

    How much data are we dealing with?

    Simple solution is personal external drives that you plug in when you are the user.
  • esuhl
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    The "My Documents" virtual folders do exactly what you want, except they're on your C: partition...? Just right-click the My Documents folder, choose Properties, and you can change the location of this folder as you wish.
  • arciere wrote: »
    Ok, I'll stop here. Keep doing what you are doing if you think that it suits you .... anyone who want to access your data will be easily able to do so.
    [/QUOTE]
    Well as far as you're concerned i will keep on doing what i'm doing. Why? Because you also seem determined to keep on doing what you're doing & that is not listening to a word i'm saying.


    Once again for the hard of reading .... we are not dealing with people like YOU here who could easily go in and assign a drive letter. Obviously this method would not work for people like YOU.
    But since you've read and taken on board absolutely everything i've said, you'll be well aware of the part where i said we are NOT dealing with people like YOU we are dealing with the AVERAGE JOE who DOESN'T have a clue how to do that and that's to even assume that they would question how to do that which they would NOT. They would just assume that's the way the computer has been set up and leave it at that ...... as they've done for the past TEN YEARS.


    Yes big man, i get it, it's not the most secure method but then security depends on who's trying to access it.


    My front door for example. It'd likely stop you and even most people breaking in to my house. Would it stop someone with the big red key who was determined to get in at any cost? No.
    So how secure is my front door? Well that depends doesn't it Einstein!? Against you it would be pretty damn secure. Against someone who was getting in no matter the cost i may as well just leave it wide open. Get it??
    Or maybe you still don't.

    How much data are we dealing with?
    In terms of terabytes? A few. I haven't totted it all up to be honest.
    Simple solution is personal external drives that you plug in when you are the user.
    I hear what you're saying and it's food for thought, i will consider that :)
  • Neil_Jones wrote: »
    There's a difference between "I want to do it my way, end of discussion" and "I hear what you're saying but I've done it this way because... <insert good reason here> however it's food for thought and I will consider it [even though you have no intention of doing any such thing but you don't write that!]".

    Which one of these approaches do you think antagonises others? To be honest I've seen your other posts elsewhere on here and its hardly surprising you think people jump down your throat sometimes. But I'm not going to say anymore on that.
    Ok, i hear what you're saying and it's food for thought. I will consider that.


    In the mean time though... :)


    See there's always a flipside. You're arguing i'm being hard headed but then i argue at the same time so are you.


    Now i don't know whether the guy from earlier can be trusted when he says it can be broken down in a couple clicks because 1) I've never tried that way and he may well be correct but now more importantly 2) he suggested the way i currently have in place can also be broken down in a couple clicks, which i know for sure is absolute nonsense for reasons i've just given. So if he's posting nonsense about that, it makes me wonder how wrong he might have been earlier. He forgets ... we're not talking about people like him trying to gain access. That's like me recommending an RS3 to everyone who wants a new car because i like things quick so it must meet everyone elses requirements too, right? Obviously not.



    Easiest solution to your original post: Do what you like if it makes you happy. Your computer after all.
    I'm trying to. 2 problems : 1) people wanting me to do it a different way and 2) i don't actually know how to, hence i'm here trying to find out how to.
    esuhl wrote: »
    The "My Documents" virtual folders do exactly what you want, except they're on your C: partition...? Just right-click the My Documents folder, choose Properties, and you can change the location of this folder as you wish.
    Sounds like it might work from the limited knowledge i have.


    Assuming there's only 1 drive in play. I get that anything in My Documents on user account 1 will only be seen from user account 1 ... not from user2, user3 etc etc.


    So if you change the location as you say and have it 'point' to a folder on an separate INTERNAL drive - the same then applies - they wont see the contents of that folder, and it'll be stored on a separate drive?


    Sounds too simple to work yet sounds like it could??
  • arciere
    arciere Posts: 1,361 Forumite
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    edited 24 December 2019 at 4:37PM
    Yes big man, i get it, it's not the most secure method but then security depends on who's trying to access it.


    My front door for example. It'd likely stop you and even most people breaking in to my house. Would it stop someone with the big red key who was determined to get in at any cost? No.
    So how secure is my front door? Well that depends doesn't it Einstein!? Against you it would be pretty damn secure. Against someone who was getting in no matter the cost i may as well just leave it wide open. Get it??
    If we follow your example, that level of security would be like keeping the door key under your front mat.

    Still I don't get why you want to use 4 drives to achieve a level of security that is at the very least questionable. Everything you do right now would be perfectly doable with one Windows installation and one drive.
  • arciere wrote: »
    If we follow your example, that level of security would be like keeping the door key under your front mat.
    Agreed. But if we want to keep going down that route then ...
    My example would be involving people who wouldn't even think to look under the mat.


    Your turn....

    Still I don't get why you want to use 4 drives to achieve a level of security that is at the very least questionable. Everything you do right now would be perfectly doable with one Windows installation and one drive.
    Which is what i've been asking from the start.
    To be honest, it might actually have been answered and i might have missed it so i actually do apologise if it's been answered (aside from eshul's suggestion - i've seen that and in my mind at least that should work, right?). If i've missed anyone elses answer then it's because i'm seeing try this external drive, try this permissions, try this that doesn't actually do what you're asking for & i'm getting lost in it all as i try to see something that answers the question.




    Speaking of eshul - and in light of what Neil Jones said in his last post (2nd para). If i'm such a bad guy and have attitude throughout, any idea why i seem to have it with you and not eshul? And no it's not because they may have told me "what i want to hear".
    Like i always say, i respond in kind. I may well have had issue with eshul elsewhere in the past, i can't actually remember but it doesn't matter because for this post at least they came in, helped, no attitude no nothing, left. I take them as they post it.
    If i was such a 'bad guy' who liked to 'antagonise others' i'd do it with everyone no matter what. Except nobody ever looks at what came before it ;) Even look at Neil Jones' post that i actually thanked. No problem with that. Different from his last post though. ;) So you can think i just wake up & think who can i antagonise today if you wish. I'd actually prefer it didn't get to this. Nobody ever looks at what came before it though.
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