Electric boiler

couriervanman

KeithElliott wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback and advice.

Why don’t we like oil? Because we’d like to migrate away from fossil fuels. The easiest way to minimise fossil fuel use in practice is to go all electric (albeit by no means perfect). Will one (or even one million) house(s) in the UK migrating from fossil fuels make any difference to climate change? Almost certainly not imo. But it’s a life choice.

Current 4 oven oil AGA uses 51 litres per week (2.5k ish per year). We’re retired and just leave it on to do it’s thing all the time. Other 1.5k litres use/year is for heating and hot water.

The 3 oven new R7 AGA is probably less energy intensive than 270KWH for the conversion but is £10k more upfront.

The oil energy equivalent calculation is very useful..thank you. We pay just less than 20p/ KWH and don’t have economy 7.

My maths is weak but I think it works out as 1500 litres of oil (the non AGA bit) being approx 15k kWh which, at 20p/kWh is about £3k/year. Add 270KwH / week for the Aga conversion ... approx 11k KWH gives 26k kWh/year or about £100/week (just over £5k/ year).

I guess folk with AGAs, electric cars and now it seems electric heating don’t make decisions that are primarily economically efficient.

The real concern is that when the UK starts to encounter power brownouts (or worse), quite likely in the next decade imo, then we won’t have heating, hot water or a cooker! But maybe by then power companies will be sophisticated enough to have a super-premium tariff that allows users to be exempt from loss of power (eg double cost tariff)... who knows!

So £10k conversion for new AGA and more expensive to run......that's an expensive life choice and could be more expensive if/when you sell house

A._Badger

Cardew wrote: »

It also includes biomass, albeit states it can be quickly replaced. Depends I suppose on the definition of 'quickly'. You could make an arguement for coal as replaceable - albeit slowly;)


I wonder also if they know just what is 'clean power' imported by sub-sea cables. Most from France is Nuclear generated but how do they know what is clean?

This biomass business is a confidence trick on a gullible public. They have switched Drax to burning wood sourced from virgin forests in the USA (transported by heavily polluting diesel powered ships!) to the UK, where it is burned.

Somehow,. this is supposed to be 'green'!

As for the prospects of reliable storage, the following article exposes the problem with batteries: https://fee.org/articles/41-inconvenient-truths-on-the-new-energy-economy/

It looks like we are going to be in for a long wait before it becomes a reality. If they really want us to use electricity for everything, the only answer I can see is to go nuclear but that faces a mountain of problems of its own.