BW Legal Threats 2 Years after PPN - Suggestions?

Scorpion70

Umkomaas wrote: »

Many large companies can't be @rsed with the hassle, they simply pay the PPC what they want, then dock that from the employees pay packet!

Is all the correspondence you are now receiving addressed in your name, or in the company's name with them just passing it over to you?

You don't necessarily need the vehicle's V5C, you could use utility bills (as suggested by Redx).

The correspondence I receive from BW Legal is addressed to my name at my company's address.

beamerguy wrote: »

Bit of a tangled web.

So the vehicle is registered to your company hence the V5 issue.
Is it a vehicle allocated to you or a pool vehicle

Have you told your employer that you will deal with it directly ?

The vehicle is a pool vehicle driven by whoever requests it at the time.

I have told my employer, but this was two and a half years ago. An utter !!!!ing joke!

Redx wrote: »

Definitely a tangled web , how were we to know ?

My point was clear , email a SAR

To obtain a reply with your data , YOU must provide the PPC with proof of I D

We tend to reject using driving licence or passport because of the extra data on it , hence normally we advise to use a V5C or a copy of the court claim form, or redacted utility bills with your name and address and date on them

Frankly , it's about you proving your I D , so it's your problem to decide how you prove that you are you , so forget about the V5C because that won't help you as it's not in your own name or address, just use any proof of I D you are happy with

You know what you need to do , so how you do it is your problem , if you disregard the letter and my advice , then use a copy of the claim form when it arrives as proof of I D and email the SAR (but better to do it now than later)

Hope that clarifies it

Ok cheers mate, I appreciate it. Thinking about this I obviously need to prove that I am who I say I am in relation to my workplace, so all I can think of at present is sending them a payslip or P60....Or is that a bad idea?! As that will show my name and my place of work and nothing else bar how much I'm paid, though I could cover that up etc.

Good idea?

Fruitcake

Use anything with your name and current address on it for your proof of ID.
If the only thing you have has a picture of you on it, then cover that part up. The ICO have said using photo ID is not required as the scammers have nothing to compare it to.

The address needs to be one where you can be contacted by post, an address for service (of documents). This could be your place of residence, your place of work, the chippy down the road, or a friend or neighbour.
The place where you live is always the best though.

Redx

I find it strange that the letter has your name on it , but not your address

It seems that somebody told the PPC the name of the hirer or lessee as Keeper , or somebody blabbed about who was driving

The main SAR issue is to prove that you are you

The PPC has 6 years to issue a Court claim , it's been that way since 1973 , so nothing strange about it being 2 or 3 years later

Scorpion70

Fruitcake wrote: »

Use anything with your name and current address on it for your proof of ID.
If the only thing you have has a picture of you on it, then cover that part up. The ICO have said using photo ID is not required as the scammers have nothing to compare it to.

The address needs to be one where you can be contacted by post, an address for service (of documents). This could be your place of residence, your place of work, the chippy down the road, or a friend or neighbour.
The place where you live is always the best though.

But why should I use something with my current home address on when as I've said, the address they have for me is my workplace. So therefore, why would they need to know extra information like my home address? Surely, that proves nothing to them, whereas my proof of my workplace address against my identity proves I am who I say I am. Sorry, I realise you've said I can include my workplace, which they are able to send post too. They also have my work email for that matter, which is Ok.

Redx wrote: »

I find it strange that the letter has your name on it , but not your address

It seems that somebody told the PPC the name of the hirer or lessee as Keeper , or somebody blabbed about who was driving

The main SAR issue is to prove that you are you

The PPC has 6 years to issue a Court claim , it's been that way since 1973 , so nothing strange about it being 2 or 3 years later

I see what you mean in relation to the PPC. Presumably the DVLA handed over details about the car reg belonging to my employer? As also stated previously, I mistakenly admitted I was the driver when explaining I put in the wrong reg out of habit.

I have been reading up the newbies thread and SAR-related info this afternoon, and will tailor an SAR template I've found to use.

Redx

So you dropped yourself in it , lol , if you hadn't , POFA would have saved you due to the PPC not obtaining hire docs

Your workplace address is fine , if it is used for service of paperwork , no need for home address as you correctly say

If they believe that you are who you say you are , they will reply to the SAR , so a copy of the LoC may work , plus any other work I D to back it up

Wrong reg is de minimis , look it up

Scorpion70

Redx wrote: »

So you dropped yourself in it , lol , if you hadn't , POFA would have saved you due to the PPC not obtaining hire docs

Your workplace address is fine , if it is used for service of paperwork , no need for home address as you correctly say

If they believe that you are who you say you are , they will reply to the SAR , so a copy of the LoC may work , plus any other work I D to back it up

Wrong reg is de minimis , look it up

Yep well in hindsight I probably could have just addressed PPS by post speaking as an employee from my employer, without naming myself or admitting I was the driver, I do realise that. But I jumped the gun (as so many people do) and didn't know all this stuff found on MSE about the do's and dont's of contesting private parking tickets.

The question is - they contacted my employer by post straight up - so how did they get the employer's address? DVLA?

LoC is Letter of Claim? What did you mean by an "LoC may work?" Send PPS a copy of BW Legal's latest letter to me? Please confirm. Thanks.

Redx

The DVLA keep the addresses of the Registered keeper , not employers

The PPC has an electronic link and gets RK details from the DVLA , issues the PCN to that name and address , so if your company registered the vehicle , they wrote to your company

After that you must have replied and dobbed yourself in due to ignorance of the topic and not researching it through google or coming here

A copy of the paperwork you have received may work as proof of I D , is what I meant

The GDPR is the new DPA , so they would be foolish not to verify your identity , due to it all being work related , you need copies of work related docs , like the paperwork they sent you , as it's your name and work address

Bear in mind for most people it's their own vehicle and a home address , you are one of the few exceptions to that scenario

Coupon-mad

But why should I use something with my current home address on when as I've said, the address they have for me is my workplace. So therefore, why would they need to know extra information like my home address?

I agree, no telling them.