Ireland population boom post Brexit?

gfplux

Some smart skilled/professional young people might think a five year job transfer to ROI leading to an EU passport might be a smart move.

borntobefree

gfplux wrote: »

Some smart skilled/professional young people might think a five year job transfer to ROI leading to an EU passport might be a smart move.

I doubt that. I could get an Irish passport tomorrow but why would I bother?

gfplux

borntobefree wrote: »

I doubt that. I could get an Irish passport tomorrow but why would I bother?

I don’t know why you would not bother!
Perhaps you don’t have skills that would easily transfer to an EU27 country or perhaps you are simply too old like I am.

Fran_Klee

gfplux wrote: »

Some smart skilled/professional young people might think a five year job transfer to ROI leading to an EU passport might be a smart move.

Some might, but I suspect not very many.
When you look at opportunities for these smart skilled/professional young people you will see that the majority of the best opportunities are not in the EU.
Out of my peer group by far the majority that have moved within these past 5 years for career advancement haven't gone to EU countries but to USA, Oz, NZ, and even Canada.
Funnily enough they all managed to move and work despite these not being EU countries.
Go figure.

Thrugelmir

GreatApe wrote: »

Price is a mix of a hundred different factors

Fundamentally as the world ages and demographics and lifestyles change we need about 1 home for 1.9 people perhaps even more

So almost everywhere in the world still has a shortage of homes including Ireland and the UK


The UK is expected to grow to 73 million people by 2040 and we will need 38 million homes for them. That means we are short 9 million homes in the UK. We don't need 9 million all today but we do need 9 million over the next 20 years. 450,000 homes a year on average. I doubt we will hit those figures sustained so the shortage of homes will continue

This is the same argument I made a decade ago
Any overproduction of homes will be covered very quickly by population growth and the changes in how people live.

In Eire finding suitable employment is the issue. Plenty of large houses were built in the boom years were there is little demand due to affordability. Improving the road infrastructure would have to be the top priority. As takes to long to travel far.

SliAbhaile

Tromking wrote: »

Live and work in Ireland for a bit and all those U.K. in work benefits and the free healthcare is there for you to access again. A loophole that will need close monitoring.

No one is going to do that. To become an Irish citizen is almost as difficult as a UK one. You have to live in the country for five years and take a citizenship test. Anyone who has made their home in Ireland for this period - where salaries are higher than the UK (and healthcare is universal) - is not going to move to the UK.

And the UK's benefits are among the worst in Europe.

SliAbhaile

borntobefree wrote: »

I doubt that. I could get an Irish passport tomorrow but why would I bother?

Job adverts in Germany have already started saying "EU nationals only". Never say never, at some stage in your future you might want one of those jobs.

SliAbhaile

Gary1984 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if there's much in the way of migration from the UK to Ireland over the coming years.

As a percentage of the host population, there are already more British living in Ireland than Irish in the UK.

300,000 British in 4,739,383.
869,093 irish in 66,870,000.

Rich2808

Tromking wrote: »

The continuance of the Common Travel Area between Ireland and the U.K. post Brexit is going to make the adoption of an Irish passport quite popular with other EU citizens going forward I reckon. Live and work in Ireland for a bit and all those U.K. in work benefits and the free healthcare is there for you to access again. A loophole that will need close monitoring.

Ireland may also want to tighten is citizenship rules.

Allowing you to get citizenship via just one grandparent – and pass this down for ever via generations even if you never live in Ireland – is ridiculous. With British and most nationalities you can only pass it on via parents for one generation if you don’t live in the UK. It might have worked in the 1950s and 1960s when Ireland was seeing mass emigration – but is no longer suitable for modern day.

In the end Irish are a people and a culture with a shared history – not just a lump of land anyone should be able to benefit from (including access to the welfare benefit system!). You either preserve that – or see it slowly die.

Tromking

SliAbhaile wrote: »

No one is going to do that. To become an Irish citizen is almost as difficult as a UK one. You have to live in the country for five years and take a citizenship test. Anyone who has made their home in Ireland for this period - where salaries are higher than the UK (and healthcare is universal) - is not going to move to the UK.

People probably said such things prior to the 2008 Irish crash of course.