BT Speed availability higher than anyone else

John_2019

I am currently looking to change broadband because I am supposed to be able to get faster speeds since our line was upgraded.
When you go to the BT website and start the process it says that we are able to achieve speeds of up to 300 mbps with a guaranteed speed of 145mbps so all of their packages are available to buy (way too expensive btw). When I go to other firms websites and do a check on speed available the highest is 10 -17 mbps with a guaranteed speed of 7 mbps so cannot get anything but the basic package. my questions are: is BT deliberatly blocking other ISP's from accessing faster speeds (thus forcing me to go with them) and is there anything I can do about it ?

wongataa

Openreach to not restrict what speeds ISPs can offer. If one can offer a certain speed all could do if they choose to. If certain high speeds are restricted to one ISP then all it means is that other ISPs have chosen not to offer those packages at the moment.

JJ_Egan

As above NO.
and this question is asked multiple times as FTTP becomes more in usage .
So far most ISPs are not offering FTTP .
I think i have two that will supply me outside of BT .
Can be difficult to find the others on comparative sites .

John_2019

Thanks for the replies. FTTP was supplied by subcontractor on behalf of Openreach (on leaflet through door).


You would have thought a) Openreach would make this available to all ISP's
and b) ISP's would take it up, as alot more people would subscribe to the faster speeds available.


Consumers would be the winner as competition would drive the price down, at the moment seems to be a monopoly for BT

Croft12

John_2019 wrote: »

Thanks for the replies. FTTP was supplied by subcontractor on behalf of Openreach (on leaflet through door).


You would have thought a) Openreach would make this available to all ISP's
and b) ISP's would take it up, as alot more people would subscribe to the faster speeds available.


Consumers would be the winner as competition would drive the price down, at the moment seems to be a monopoly for BT

Openreach have to offer it to others and they do:



https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttp-providers


You can get fttp from others its not so hard just much smaller pool as fttp is small beer still and many ISPs don;t bother.

wongataa

John_2019 wrote: »

You would have thought a) Openreach would make this available to all ISP's

They do

John_2019 wrote: »

and b) ISP's would take it up, as alot more people would subscribe to the faster speeds available.


Consumers would be the winner as competition would drive the price down, at the moment seems to be a monopoly for BT

Complain to TalkTalk, Sky, etc that they aren't offering FTP when they easily could.

iniltous

John_2019 wrote: »

Thanks for the replies. FTTP was supplied by subcontractor on behalf of Openreach (on leaflet through door).


You would have thought a) Openreach would make this available to all ISP's
and b) ISP's would take it up, as alot more people would subscribe to the faster speeds available.


Consumers would be the winner as competition would drive the price down, at the moment seems to be a monopoly for BT

a) They do.
b) the vast majority of the income an ISP that uses LLU get from their customer is theirs to keep ( they hand over around only around 30p a day to Openreach)
if they actively promote FTTP , they would pay a little more to OR , so reducing their income, until they start to lose customers who move specifically because of the faster speeds another ISP who does offer FTTP can offer , they are not that likely to become keen on FTTP, having said that both Sky and TT have said they intend to offer OR FTTP, but they haven’t said when

JJ_Egan

John_2019 wrote: »

<You would have thought a) Openreach would make this available to all ISP's>


As said they do just that .


<and b) ISP's would take it up, as alot more people would subscribe to the faster speeds available.>


Pointless really as so many just complain about the price and only want cheap cheap .







<Consumers would be the winner as competition would drive the price down, at the moment seems to be a monopoly for BT>


Once more its not a monopoly .ISPs are not willing to purchase a higher priced product and sell it to you at a loss.

boliston

this sounds like a 'g.fast' product they are offering - i'm not sure if all isp's offer g.fast (330mb/s download & 50mb/s upload speed) - it normally requires being fairly close to the cabinet to benefit (i have it as i live right next to a cabinet and an extra £10 per month seemed reasonable for the extra speed)

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boliston wrote: »

this sounds like a 'g.fast' product they are offering - i'm not sure if all isp's offer g.fast (330mb/s download & 50mb/s upload speed) - it normally requires being fairly close to the cabinet to benefit (i have it as i live right next to a cabinet and an extra £10 per month seemed reasonable for the extra speed)

This sounds like exactly what is discussed above, FTTP.

onomatopoeia99

Colin_Maybe wrote: »

This sounds like exactly what is discussed above, FTTP.

G fast is different from FTTP in that it's for a copper line and modulates the digital signal onto a analogue carriers, like ADSL and VDSL. It's designed for very short local loops (under 500m).