What next after eviction order

John_Smith_2019

Crashy_Time wrote: »

No doubt the landlord business is getting harder, but the OP is just looking for advice and some posters on here (not you necessarily) do seem to put the boot in when a landlord is in obvious trouble, which is strange because the forum in general seems to revere property ownership/mortgage debt and high house prices?

Probably because BTL is seen as more of a contentious investment, compared to stocks or bonds. We don't know the other side of the story here, but for whatever reason it seems as if the tenant is going to be made homeless.

I would not pass judgement on the ethics of it. I own tobacco and oil stocks, which many would view as more unethical than BTL.

realheros

Tenant also has the right to challenge the court order or get the case chucked out right up to when the bailiffs/HCEO are walking up the garden path.

Crashy_Time

John_Smith_2019 wrote: »

I agree.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. Apologies to the OP.

But I do believe it is possible to spot peaks and troughs by watching the public.
Classic recent example; Bitcoin 2017. Every man and his dog was talking about it.

A good sign to get out is when websites like the BBC start talking about it.

Very true, the public seem a lot less captivated by the idea of borrowing tons of dosh for average property, and then some more for BTL so that a tenant can make your life hell for a year or so by refusing to pay rent, must admit I am surprised by the brass neck of some tenants discussed on here though, and the leeway the law seems to allow them.

Crashy_Time

realheros wrote: »

Tenant also has the right to challenge the court order or get the case chucked out right up to when the bailiffs/HCEO are walking up the garden path.

Why should they have that right if they have not paid rent for six months, can`t the government just change the law so that you are out after 4 months for non-payment, no arguments?

John_Smith_2019

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Why should they have that right if they have not paid rent for six months, can`t the government just change the law so that you are out after 4 months for non-payment, no arguments?

Yes. If they wanted to.
But as tenants have the vote, the direction of travel for both parties seems to be moving in the opposite direction.Both parties are becoming more pro tenant.

Crashy_Time

Yes, it does seem that way.

John_Smith_2019

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Very true, the public seem a lot less captivated by the idea of borrowing tons of dosh for average property, and then some more for BTL so that a tenant can make your life hell for a year or so by refusing to pay rent, must admit I am surprised by the brass neck of some tenants discussed on here though, and the leeway the law seems to allow them.

It will be interesting to watch what happens.
If the rules continue to become more anti landlord, you may start to see opportunistic tenants looking for properties to rent, with the specific intent of trying to gain the property from the landlord.
ie move in for a while, make some complaints, stop paying rent, make the landlord a low offer to buy the house.
If you are a landlord looking at months of no rent, eviction costs etc, it may be cheaper to sell at a lower price to your tenant - rather than spend more money trying to gain vacant possession.

Or possibly, the tenants may find a friend or relative to make a low offer to the landlord. That would prevent the landlord later trying to sue the previous tenant for costs etc.

Crashy_Time

John_Smith_2019 wrote: »

It will be interesting to watch what happens.
If the rules continue to become more anti landlord, you may start to see opportunistic tenants looking for properties to rent, with the specific intent of trying to gain the property from the landlord.
ie move in for a while, make some complaints, stop paying rent, make the landlord a low offer to buy the house.
If you are a landlord looking at months of no rent, eviction costs etc, it may be cheaper to sell at a lower price to your tenant - rather than spend more money trying to gain vacant possession.

Or possibly, the tenants may find a friend or relative to make a low offer to the landlord. That would prevent the landlord later trying to sue the previous tenant for costs etc.

Yes, it is a fine balance between protecting property rights and allowing people who are aggrieved at the obvious property bubble the banks created to force people to gorge on their debt taking their frustrations out on innocent landlords.

Jayh90

Good evening. Can any help please tenant isn’t moving and is refusing to go. She as know said she’s got mental health issues and cancer. Can any advise if I go down the high court route witch I don’t have a clue on how to with this impact it

anselld

Jayh90 wrote: »

Good evening. Can any help please tenant isn’t moving and is refusing to go. She as know said she’s got mental health issues and cancer. Can any advise if I go down the high court route witch I don’t have a clue on how to with this impact it

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