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PCN escalated to Court proceedings **EDIT - I WON**
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KeithP said:Littlewadie said:Should I also do as nosferatu1001 has said and send a letter to PP too?
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No, there is no template. It will be a really, really simple letter however. Should take about 10 miunutes to write.4
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So this first bit is to the Judge, does that look ok?
In The County Court At XXXXXXClaim Number xxxxBetween
Premier Park Limited (Claimant)
and
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxDear District Judge XXXXXXX,Please could you place these 4 abusive letters (attached) on my court file as evidence, that the claimant is unlawfully demanding that the defendant pay up, or face court, when clearly I already have a hearing, which was previously set for March and adjourned until June, this may be just down to utter incompetence or as I feel it is plain harassment.
I would like to note that 2 of the letters are dated the same date and the last one is dated for August 2020, which I obviously received in May 2020.I have also attached the letter I have sent to PPLegal, asking them
to stop sending letters and harassing me, as they already have an open claim against me and have a court date set.Yours Sincerelyxxxxxxxxxxxx
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This second bit is to PP Legal.
Dear Jacob Lancaster,Thank you for your persistent, annoying and abusive letters, dated 03/03/2020, 24/03/2020, 24/03/2020 & 04/08/2020 demanding an ungodly sum of £170.
I am kindly asking you to cease your harassment of this claim, as it is already in the system and a court date of March was set but adjourned till June due to covid 19.I will be adding your letters and bringing up your persistent harassment in the claim as part of my evidence of your unreasonable behaviour to date.I expect to receive your letter of apology and not any other demands for money to come through my letter box.Yours Sincerelyxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Am I ok with these, did I cover everything but be simple enough?
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Never end a business letter 'Kind regards'.Dear <A Name> ....... Yours sincerely
Dear <Sir> or <Madam> ....... Yours faithfully
Did you cover this in school?Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street2 -
Umkomaas said:Never end a business letter 'Kind regards'.Dear <A Name> ....... Yours sincerely
Dear <Sir> or <Madam> ....... Yours faithfully
Did you cover this in school?
But is the letter ok otherwise
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Those letters of yours look fine to me.
Keep the original letters from PP though! Only give the court a copy of each.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Coupon-mad said:Those letters of yours look fine to me.
Keep the original letters from PP though! Only give the court a copy of each.
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Email at the moment - it's immediate and not delayed.
I've just remembered the case henrik777 posted about harassment:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77142812#Comment_77142812
So how about this for your email to PP Legal? I've removed your 'thankyou' from the start as well!To PP Legal
Dear Jacob Lancaster,
re: (your name) Claim Number xxxxI refer to your persistent, annoying and abusive letters, dated 03/03/2020, 24/03/2020, 24/03/2020 & 04/08/2020 demanding an ungodly sum of £170. You must take this as a 'cease and desist' notice.
Due to Premier Park's priority being the pursuit of money from the law-abiding public and displaying a clear disregard for the rights of consumers, clearly no-one bothered to check and establish that the same disputed 'parking charge' is already the subject of court proceedings (claim number above) and a court date of March was set but adjourned till June, due to covid_19.Your latest letters are incomprehensible and are clear evidence of persistent harassment and of Premier Park's unreasonable behaviour to date. This is not just negligence. I have sent copies of your latest letters to the court which set the hearings for the above claim.
I refer you to Ferguson v British Gas and also Harrison v Link Financial :https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Mercantile/2011/B3.html
...where it was found (in relation to a series of unwarranted and harassing debt demands) that there was ''no excuse for conduct of which it must be supposed the sole purpose must have been to make the Claimant's life so difficult that he would come to heel. I cannot think that in a society that is otherwise so sensitive of a consumer's position this is conduct that should countenanced''.I expect to receive your letter of apology and urge you to actually read the papers relating to the current claim and end this harassment immediately. Due to my protected characteristics under the Equality Act 2010, Premier Park have by their conduct ever since the day of the unfair parking charge, persistently broken that disability law.
Given that I had already assessed, filed and served my costs with the Claimant's legal representatives prior to the wasted March hearing (which I attended at considerable inconvenience), take note that should Premier Park now discontinue the above claim to try to avoid explaining their conduct in June, I will ask the court to award my full costs including those reserved from the first hearing.
Yours Sincerely
xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxPRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Coupon-mad said:Email at the moment - it's immediate and not delayed.
I've just remembered the case henrik777 posted about harassment:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77142812#Comment_77142812
So how about this for your email to PP Legal? I've removed your 'thankyou' from the start as well!To PP Legal
Dear Jacob Lancaster,
re: (your name) Claim Number xxxxI refer to your persistent, annoying and abusive letters, dated 03/03/2020, 24/03/2020, 24/03/2020 & 04/08/2020 demanding an ungodly sum of £170. You must take this as a 'cease and desist' notice.
Due to Premier Park's priority being the pursuit of money from the law-abiding public and displaying a clear disregard for the rights of consumers, clearly no-one bothered to check and establish that the same disputed 'parking charge' is already the subject of court proceedings (claim number above) and a court date of March was set but adjourned till June, due to covid_19.Your latest letters are incomprehensible and are clear evidence of persistent harassment and of Premier Park's unreasonable behaviour to date. This is not just negligence. I have sent copies of your latest letters to the court which set the hearings for the above claim.
I refer you to Ferguson v British Gas and also Harrison v Link Financial :https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Mercantile/2011/B3.html
...where it was found (in relation to a series of unwarranted and harassing debt demands) that there was ''no excuse for conduct of which it must be supposed the sole purpose must have been to make the Claimant's life so difficult that he would come to heel. I cannot think that in a society that is otherwise so sensitive of a consumer's position this is conduct that should countenanced''.I expect to receive your letter of apology and urge you to actually read the papers relating to the current claim and end this harassment immediately. Due to my protected characteristics under the Equality Act 2010, Premier Park have by their conduct ever since the day of the unfair parking charge, persistently broken that disability law.
Given that I had already assessed, filed and served my costs with the Claimant's legal representatives prior to the wasted March hearing (which I attended at considerable inconvenience), take note that should Premier Park now discontinue the above claim to try to avoid explaining their conduct in June, I will ask the court to award my full costs including those reserved from the first hearing.
Yours Sincerely
xxxxxxx xxxxxxxx
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I am kindly asking you to cease your harassment of this claimNotwithstanding that you may have received further advice which will cause you to rewrite that letter, you cannot harass a claim, you harass a person, i.e. "you"adjourned until June, this may be just down to utter incompetence or as I feel it is plain harassment.Insert a comma as shown, it reads better.adjourned until June, this may be just down to utter incompetence or as I feel it is, plain harassment.4
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