More Johnson Lies...

Thrugelmir

oddjobbpb wrote: »

I reckon (and hope) Labour get around 205 seats, which will mean Corbyn et al all go, and we can have a moderate, sensible, pragmatic opposition that will do better in a few years' time.

Momentum's aim appears to be to purge the party of Blairites. We are heading back to the days of Labour under Foot and the influence of Unions. Shame as the middle ground is there to be won. As that's required is sensible pragmatic policies. Not pie in the sky Marxism.

Arklight

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Momentum's aim appears to be to purge the party of Blairites. We are heading back to the days of Labour under Foot and the influence of Unions. Shame as the middle ground is there to be won. As that's required is sensible pragmatic policies. Not pie in the sky Marxism.

Milliband was a centrist and was still vilified as "Red Ed".

oddjobbpb

Elections are won from the centre and always will be...centre right, centre left or bullseye centre. Whoever grabs the centre wins it'll always be that way.

And I'm no boomer. We had nothing. I was sleeping in my car at 21 when my dad died when I was 19 and the family went bankrupt.

I worked hard, worked smart, got my mum a mobile home, bought my first home, did years and years of 17 hour days and managed to call it a day in my late 50's. Never drew a tanner in benefits, never had a council house.

I've earned my money, not been given it.

And I want to keep as much of it as possible for my childen / grandchildren to have, not waste it on 'free' stuff when anyone with a double digit IQ can see that nothing in life is ever free.

Also, it's not austerity, it's living within your means. Whether it's your household or the country it makes no difference; AT SOME POINT tax receipts have to match or exceed what's going out. It's simple maths, if that doesn't happen, eventually you'll go skint. Long term, you CANNOT borrow your way out of trouble.

Takedap

westernpromise wrote: »

Did you teach yours that Blair, the LibDems and SNP are all liars? No you did not. Most lying you are fine with, am I right?

From elsewhere, funniest (because spot on) post of the day re the Labour manifesto
q Is there anything Labour aren't going to nationalize or tax out of business?
a Stupidity and hate

Enjoy your race to the bottom.
But don't complain when you get there.

westernpromise

oddjobbpb wrote: »

I've earned my money, not been given it.

Labour hates you. The only legitimate money is money given to you by the state. You earned it = you stole it.

westernpromise

Takedap wrote: »

Enjoy your race to the bottom.
But don't complain when you get there.

You'll be there before me because I won't be voting for any racist, sexist, Marxist, terrorist-supporting lying anti-Semitic hatemonger.

oddjobbpb

''Labour hates you. The only legitimate money is money given to you by the state. You earned it = you stole it.''

I know they hate me. Well, the present labour party do, Mr Left of centre Blair tolerated me.

Yes, they hate me: but I'm not too keen on them either.

I'll get called a rabid right winger: I don't actually care, someone'sopinion of me will make no difference to my life.

Thrugelmir

Takedap wrote: »

Enjoy your race to the bottom.
But don't complain when you get there.

Look East. The race is well under way.

westernpromise

After you they're coming for the Jews.

And still people vote for them. I look around on the Tube and I think, 30% of the people I share this carriage (and country) with are anti-Semites. Shocking that we have come to this.

Arklight

westernpromise wrote: »

After you they're coming for the Jews.

And still people vote for them. I look around on the Tube and I think, 30% of the people I share this carriage (and country) with are anti-Semites. Shocking that we have come to this.

What utter nonsense you spout...