HMRC - Confusing - Who is right and who is wrong?

Butterfliesarepretty

The agency have now sent me the PAYE coding notice from hmrc and it states 1097L and shows the previous pay and tax as zero!!!!! Yet I have paid tax for a full time role and have the letters to prove it! So a letter I will srbd with this printed coding notice as a complaint.

sheramber

Is there anything after the 1097l?

If your previous pay and tax were not available to HMRC ( your previous employer may not have reported them when they sent out the coding notice). that would not be HMRC's fault)
Then your code would be operated on a week/month basis indicated by an X or MI after the code number.

That would ensure you were taxed correctly on each of your following wages .

What you need to look at is the total of your income and the total of your tax deducted for the year.
That is what matters now as the year is finished.

Have you listed what you think your total pay and tax deducted are for the year?

Have you compared that with what HMRC have sent you for their calculation?

Do they agree or what is the difference.?


If you want someone to check it for you then give us your figures and give us HMRC's figures.

Butterfliesarepretty

Hi I attached a spreadsheet earlier showing the figures.

Butterfliesarepretty

Dazed_and_confused wrote: »

So it sounds like your problem is a revised Self Assessment calculation. Not the P800 on flickr?

Or have I misunderstood?

Yes i am paying back the £300-£400 pounds on the self assessment but they didnt take enough tax back in 2016-2017 and now I owe them just over a £1000 so I am also paying that back. The letter calculates that they only took less than 10% thats what i want them to admit and I will find out eventually I am being penalised when it was their mistake not mine. I was paying through PAYE.

Dazed_and_confused

I'm sorry but I find your posts very confusing.

You can only have one type of calculation per tax year, either PAYE (the P800) or Self Assessment.
As you have found you can obviously have two but if you file a Self Assessment return the PAYE calculation must be cancelled otherwise you could be asked to repay the same tax twice.

Have HMRC started an investigation (sometimes known as a Section 9A enquiry) into your Self Assessment return?

Have HMRC changed your Self Assessment calculation so that it no longer shows £300-£400 is due?

If the answers to those questions are both no then I genuinely think you are wasting yours and everyone else's time as the P800 calculation simply needs to be cancelled.

If HMRC don't like what you have entered on the return it is up to them to investigate.

Butterfliesarepretty

Hmrc are only sending the odd letter. Nobody has asked or phoned me to say there is an enquiry. I'm going to ask why its such a mess and raise a complaint.

Dazed_and_confused

Why not just ask if the P800 calculation has been cancelled as you have now completed a Self Assessment return for the same tax year?

By complaining surely you are going to get things looked at in much more detail and the end result could easily be cancellation of the P800 and an enquiry into your return

sheramber

There are two employers shown for2016/17

How much tax did Laura Hartley deduct?

How much tax did Jost deduct?

Butterfliesarepretty

The figures match for both employers mine and theirs.

What I am questioning to hmrc is why they only took 10%. - its on the letter I attached. It works out as 10%.

sheramber

She said that the agency I worked with from September 2016 had not notified the HMRC of the previous figure of tax paid at that date and that it was their error but I would still have to pay this back.

There is your problem.

Jost didn't supply pay and tax figures for your employment with them so Laura Ashley operated your code number as if you had not had not had any previous employment.That meant you were given the benefit of all your personal allowances instead of only part of them from September to April.

So you were given your personal allowance twice for the period April to September. once from Jost and then again from Laura Ashley . That is why it appears your tax was deducted at 10% and not 20% . It was deducted at 20% but your were given too many personal allowances .

That is why you have underpaid tax.

HMRC could not issue the pay and tax details because your previous employer had not told them you were working for them.

So Jost is at fault, not HMRC.