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Martyn1981

Sadly Z I'm more and more sure that you will be right and that BEV sales are holding up due to pre-orders. Fingers crossed demand can drop a way before it matches supply, but I'm guessing we'll see BEV sales fall in a few months as things stand.

Just checked Tesla's website and TM3 delivery is still June, but when it changes the date jumps by a few months, which I assume relates to a 'shipload' ....... so only 7-8 weeks max if I order one now ..... I wish!

michaels

zeupater said:

Hi All

So SMMT's analysis of April new vehicle registrations show BEVs having 31.8% market share (1374 units), representing a contraction of only 9.7% over 2019 .... a pretty reasonable result considering the market shrank by 97.3% with total April sales falling from 161064 in 2019 to just 4321 in 2020 .... https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/evs-and-afvs-registrations/ .

Digging further, as the SMMT tend to be a 'little infantile' and show Tesla sales as 'Other' because they don't pay protection (errr ...) membership fees, it looks like the best selling manufacturer could also be a BEV only marque ... and of course, your guess what the top 3  best selling vehicle were? .... of course ...

1 - Tesla Model 3  (658)

2 - Jaguar I-Pace (367)

3 - Vauxhall Corsa (264)

... dominated by electrons - who'd have thought it !!!

Z

I too was amused that the best selling car was not 'other imports' this month

I think the BIK thing may well make electric cars extremely attractive this year.

Martyn1981

Strange times, and unusual circumstances, but nice to hear about the odd silver lining:

Renewables surpass coal in US power generation every day in April, making EVs greener

April 2020 was the first month in history that renewables generated more electricity than coal on every day of the month. That’s based on new data from the US Energy Information Administration (EIA) and compiled by the nonprofit Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA).

The daily consecutive run of renewables over coal began on March 25 and continued for 40 straight days through May 3. That breaks the previous record of just nine continuous days.

[BTW - The UK broke last years 18 day no-coal record last week, and we are now close to 27 days. Cool!]

Martyn1981

Putting aside the fact that I like Tesla, and hold some shares, I think these two articles are quite important as they heap praise on the TMY. It's important because in the US the CUV/SUV segment is the largest and to really break the grip of ICEV's, a choice of suitable and well received vehicles will be needed. Just need more choice and more production now ..... that's all!

Fox News Heaps Ton Of Praise On Tesla Model Y

“Bask In Its Silent Intensity” — Tesla Model Y Video Review By Kelley Blue Book

Martyn1981

Picking up on points others have said in the past, and the fact that so many cars are bought on leases now, I thought these two articles were interesting as they look at depreciation, TCO and mention leasing. Ironically, the US article shows a TM3 being cheaper than a BMW, whilst the Euro article says the opposite, though the reason is explained as we see a flip in import costs, and the Euro article features a long range TM3.

Basically, my thoughts/ponderings are on the issue of lease costs falling for BEV's, which will improve their sales, hopefully their prices, and also inversely impact ICEV's. So it might be leasing that breaks the ICE, so to speak?

Tesla Model 3 Value Drops 5.5% In 1 Year, BMW 3 Series Value Drops 38% In 1 Year

Large Auto Leasing Company: Electric Cars Have Mostly Lower Total Cost In Europe

michaels

Martyn1981 said:

Picking up on points others have said in the past, and the fact that so many cars are bought on leases now, I thought these two articles were interesting as they look at depreciation, TCO and mention leasing. Ironically, the US article shows a TM3 being cheaper than a BMW, whilst the Euro article says the opposite, though the reason is explained as we see a flip in import costs, and the Euro article features a long range TM3.

Basically, my thoughts/ponderings are on the issue of lease costs falling for BEV's, which will improve their sales, hopefully their prices, and also inversely impact ICEV's. So it might be leasing that breaks the ICE, so to speak?

Tesla Model 3 Value Drops 5.5% In 1 Year, BMW 3 Series Value Drops 38% In 1 Year

Large Auto Leasing Company: Electric Cars Have Mostly Lower Total Cost In Europe

I wonder if they used actual fuel costs or costs based on the mpg/mpge?

EVandPV

Grant Shapps just announced £10 million for public charging points and an e-scooter trial will be brought forward from next year to next month.

joefizz

EVandPV said:

Grant Shapps just announced £10 million for public charging points and an e-scooter trial will be brought forward from next year to next month.

Ive been looking at buying an e-scooter for a year or more now and was put off by the legal issues with them. I dont really live in the environment suited to one but could see where they were handy, particuarly taking them on the train/bus/ferry etc.

Eventually bought a fold up pedal assist e-bike at the start of all this and absolutely love it. Will be a bit more of a faff on the train/ferry but cant see me using either for a while. Did the first run out to the local shops the other day in it and well happy.

Perhaps another nail in the using the car for personal transport coffin.

The big question now is who will win out in the EV vs hydrogen race for the battle for the overnight surplus RE use. Hydrogen will be used for commercial transport and will be used in the gas grid eventually (either full or partially). Read some interesting  data the other day which says it will come down to one or the other, not really both and the race is just getting started! Although there will likely be differences between the US and Europe.

NigeWick

joefizz said:

Perhaps another nail in the using the car for personal transport coffin.

Depends on one's use. I drive the 4.7 mile return trip to my allotment in the car. Since the back end of March, it's cost me nothing in fuel as our solar has kept it topped up. The solar had paid for itself by this time last year.

Solarchaser

the big problem hydrogen has is conversion efficiency, until they improve that, its not nearly comparable to batts, and that's before you even get into burning efficiency in an engine