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  • EricMears
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    There would seem to be one 'error' in the article whereby Barry seems to be implying that the IAM don't recognise the existence of automatic gearboxes.  I'm sure that's more a reflection of his personal views than a description of IAM policy.

    His acronym that includes a "G" is probably based on the idea that at every 'change' the driver of an automatic car would have to decide whether or not to move the gear lever from 'D' to a lock down position.  I don't think many drivers (including IAM members) would do that every time.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • JKenH
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    How new cars can prevent crashes

    Not specific to battery cars but relevant in the context of recent discussion of Tesla FSD.

    .....the European Commission has drawn up a list of advanced safety features it says must be fitted to all new cars by 2022. This edict will apply in the UK too, even after Brexit. The new mandatory features include six ADAS systems: automatic emergency braking, drowsiness detection, distraction recognition and prevention, intelligent speed assistance, lane-keeping assistance and a reversing camera or detection system. 

    However, from 2021, a newautomated lane-keeping system (ALKS) may become legal. If it does, drivers will be able to send text messages or watch a video while the car drives itself in certain circumstances. 

    https://www.whatcar.com/news/how-new-cars-can-prevent-crashes/n22156
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • JKenH
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    EricMears said:


    His acronym that includes a "G" is probably based on the idea that at every 'change' the driver of an automatic car would have to decide whether or not to move the gear lever from 'D' to a lock down position.  I don't think many drivers (including IAM members) would do that every time.
    Hardly necessary with e-Pedal.
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • Martyn1981
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    Recently Tesla cut their price of the S to $69,420 in what seems to be a two finger salute to Lucid who will in two years time sell a base version of their car for $70k (after deducting the US tax credit). But what was mostly missed, and I think I mentioned briefly, was how much the price of the S has fallen over time. This article suggests about 50% when you take the improvements into account and compare like for like.
    This isn't just a Tesla 'thing', the cost of BEV's is falling, it's just that they are a tad expensive, and of course new, so still a 'sticker shock' as the yanks might say. So good news for all.

    The Tesla Model S Value Proposition Is Astounding

    To fully appreciate how significant this value is, we need to go back in time to 2012, when the Model S first came onto the automotive scene. Back then, the base price for Tesla’s lowest cost vehicle, the Model S 60 kWh, was around $70,000 (not including possible tax credits). It was rear-wheel-drive, had an EPA-rated driving range of 208 miles, and had a 0–60 mph time of 5.9 seconds.

    There were a few additional options that could be added for additional cost. The “Technology Package” for $4,500 was widely viewed as a “must have” option and included a broad bundle of functions,

    Now let’s look at the current “base” Model S you can buy today for $69,420 (hehehe *giggle* *giggle*). It is all-wheel-drive, has an EPA-rated driving range of 402 miles (almost double the range of its 2012 predecessor), and has a 0-60 time of just 3.7 seconds (over 2 seconds quicker than its 2012 predecessor). It also has a much higher top speed of 155 mph (for those who care about such things). On a side note, it’s wild to think that 3.7 seconds from 0–60 mph is now considered the “slow” version of the Model S.

    On top of these improved performance specs, the list of additional (extra cost) options that I listed for the 2012 Model S 60 (that in the aggregate tacked several thousand dollars onto the price) are now standard on today’s Model S. Also, the tech hardware and overall refinement (e.g., the seats) found in the current Model S are far better than its 2012 predecessor. The $70,000 Model S of today is waaaay better than the $70,000 Model S of 2012. 
    On the performance-oriented end of things, back in 2013, a fully loaded Model S P85+ (which was rear-wheel-drive, had a range of 265 miles, and had a 0–60 mph of 4.2 seconds) cost just under $130,000 ($128,420 to be precise). Today’s “Ludicrous” Performance Model S destroys the 2013 P85+ in every metric, for almost $30,000 less. Even the current “non-performance” Model S will handily outperform the P85+, at almost half the price! Almost HALF!

    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • ASavvyBuyer
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    edited 25 October 2020 at 2:25PM

    Just received a link for this site.

    EV Charging Onsite

    All of the luxury cottages in our EV charging collection below have EV charging points onsite, so you can relax in the comfort of your cottage while your vehicle powers up for tomorrow's adventures. Please check the individual cottage for details of what type of charger they have, and whether it is complimentary or chargeable.

  • Coastalwatch
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    Just received a link for this site.

    EV Charging Onsite

    All of the luxury cottages in our EV charging collection below have EV charging points onsite, so you can relax in the comfort of your cottage while your vehicle powers up for tomorrow's adventures. Please check the individual cottage for details of what type of charger they have, and whether it is complimentary or chargeable.

    Thanks ASB. It's very laudable and good to see charging points being installed in all sorts of places. :)
    When staying at a B&B recently we simply charged through a granny cable overnight after negotiating a fee agreeable to both parties. Presumably that's also an option when hiring a cottage!
    East coast, lat 51.97. 8.26kw SSE, 23° pitch + 0.59kw WSW vertical. Nissan Leaf plus Zappi charger and 2 x ASHP's. Givenergy 8.2 & 9.5 kWh batts, 2 x 3 kW ac inverters. Indra V2H . CoCharger Host, Interest in Ripple Energy & Abundance.
  • JKenH
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    Used Car of the Year Awards 2021: Electric cars

    With demand for used cars on the rise, you’ll want to know which are the best buys. That’s where our annual Used Car Awards come in. These are our favourite electric cars...

    https://www.whatcar.com/news/used-car-of-the-year-awards-2021-electric-cars/n22034
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • Martyn1981
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    I think this article highlights the problem of Gov support for PEV's and fleet buyers, as 14% PEV sales is decent, but 5% BEV's is comparatively poor. The poor charging infrastructure is also mentioned.

    Portugal Has 14% Plugin Vehicle Market Share, Tesla Model 3 On Top

    While the overall automotive market in Portugal still in the doldrums (-39% year over year/YoY), plugin vehicle registrations hit a record month in September, with 1,844 plugins being registered there. As a result, the plugin electric vehicle (PEV) share hit a record 14% last month (5% full electric vehicles), and the 2020 result is now at 11% (5% full electric vehicles).

    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • JKenH
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    What Car? Real Range: which electric car can go farthest in the real world?


    This article is a few months old but interesting nevertheless. 

    https://www.whatcar.com/news/what-car-real-range-which-electric-car-can-go-farthest-in-the-real-world/n18159
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • EVandPV
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    edited 26 October 2020 at 9:19AM
    JKenH said:

    What Car? Real Range: which electric car can go farthest in the real world?


    This article is a few months old but interesting nevertheless. 

    https://www.whatcar.com/news/what-car-real-range-which-electric-car-can-go-farthest-in-the-real-world/n18159
    Their 146 miles for the Zoe R110 is as a wee bit pesimistic. I get 160 from mine easily at 'normal' driving speeds and people are getting nearer 200 by taking easy.
    And if they had used Octopus Go, the cost per mile would be nearer 1p for most of those cars.



    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
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