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Aire Street, Leeds again
Todd_J_Bonzalez_the_Third
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Hello, this is a polite request for any advice, not necessarily on a parking appeal (I’ve had help from this forum before to successfully appeal PCNs) more a question of strategy.
Long story short, our old friend Aire Street, Leeds. The driver parked up there and paid the fee, without realising it is one of those sly PE tricks, parking is £4.50 for a Saturday 8am to 6pm, but the driver has failed to notice the cut off point is 6pm – when a separate tariff kicks in of £5.50 for parking ‘overnight’ from 6pm to 8am. The driver paid the £4.50 but only left the car park some 50 minutes after six.
I’m assuming this is the contravention – as the pcn does not actually spell it out only “by either not purchasing the appropriate parking time or by remaining longer than permitted”.
The sign is very confusing, no doubt deliberately so, it has multiple separate hourly tariffs for weekdays, weeknights, weekend days, weekend nights etc etc,
The driver is prepared and often does pay more for parking but finds this 6pm cut-off point artificial and in his opinion is designed as a pitfall to catch drivers out.
The driver doubts there is any mileage in arguing grace periods even though the driver had to wait 20 minutes to park up as it was a busy Saturday afternoon and there was no spaces available.
I think they’ve got the driver bang to rights and he can't think of a realistic ground for appeal despite reading much of the advice on the sticky threads, though he sincerely despises handing over cash to what he regards as legalised piracy.
My question is, if the driver appeals to Popla, is unsuccessful, then does not pay up, and PE do pursue it and issue court papers what, at that time, is the likely upper limit of the driver's liability before it gets to court?
Is the “£100” fine for failing to comply with the terms, as stated on the car park notice for the maximum payable - or will they be able to add on lots of other charges?
I’m simply trying to work out if it is better to pay the £60 now or wait to pay £100 if they issue court papers – but I don’t want to be hit with having to pay more than £100 if it gets to going to court and I’ll have to fold? Can they charge for sending debt recovery letters, is the question I suppose.
My understanding is PE is quite litigious.
Any advice as ever would be greatly appreciated.
Long story short, our old friend Aire Street, Leeds. The driver parked up there and paid the fee, without realising it is one of those sly PE tricks, parking is £4.50 for a Saturday 8am to 6pm, but the driver has failed to notice the cut off point is 6pm – when a separate tariff kicks in of £5.50 for parking ‘overnight’ from 6pm to 8am. The driver paid the £4.50 but only left the car park some 50 minutes after six.
I’m assuming this is the contravention – as the pcn does not actually spell it out only “by either not purchasing the appropriate parking time or by remaining longer than permitted”.
The sign is very confusing, no doubt deliberately so, it has multiple separate hourly tariffs for weekdays, weeknights, weekend days, weekend nights etc etc,
The driver is prepared and often does pay more for parking but finds this 6pm cut-off point artificial and in his opinion is designed as a pitfall to catch drivers out.
The driver doubts there is any mileage in arguing grace periods even though the driver had to wait 20 minutes to park up as it was a busy Saturday afternoon and there was no spaces available.
I think they’ve got the driver bang to rights and he can't think of a realistic ground for appeal despite reading much of the advice on the sticky threads, though he sincerely despises handing over cash to what he regards as legalised piracy.
My question is, if the driver appeals to Popla, is unsuccessful, then does not pay up, and PE do pursue it and issue court papers what, at that time, is the likely upper limit of the driver's liability before it gets to court?
Is the “£100” fine for failing to comply with the terms, as stated on the car park notice for the maximum payable - or will they be able to add on lots of other charges?
I’m simply trying to work out if it is better to pay the £60 now or wait to pay £100 if they issue court papers – but I don’t want to be hit with having to pay more than £100 if it gets to going to court and I’ll have to fold? Can they charge for sending debt recovery letters, is the question I suppose.
My understanding is PE is quite litigious.
Any advice as ever would be greatly appreciated.
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