Buying a TV? One tip:

pat100

If you want to watch TV from Netflix, Apple TV+ and Disney+ you should buy a TV that supports DolbyVision. The TV’s specs may list it as HDR-capable but unless it specifies “DolbyVision” many (and an increasing number) of the movies and programs cannot display optimally as the streaming producer intended.

Note that ALL TVs are capable of PLAYING DolbyVision-encoded movies and programs - it’s a question of how WELL they play them.

There are thousands of other, maybe more important, factors which can affect a TV’s picture ranging from the construction of the screen, through the colour and pattern of your wallpaper, to your colour vision.
You can spend hours adjusting the set’s calibrations and the manufacturer may build-in DolbyVision approximations but unless it says “DolbyVision” what you see won’t be DolbyVision.

Luckily, nearly all brands of TV do support DolbyVision. So, you can concentrate on other things, like price!

Unluckily, Samsung, who produce most of the worlds tellys, have decided to ignore Netflix, Apple and Disney and don’t support DolbyVision on most of their TVs - though they do on their smartphones.

So, the advice must be: if you want a TV set that stands the best chance of optimally displaying streaming content from Netflix, Apple and Disney - don’t buy a Samsung!
Now, you probably won’t trust someone who appears to be a Samsung-hater and your neighbour’s Samsung telly looks “breathtakingly realistic” but - bottom line:

Why buy a TV that doesn’t support DolbyVision to watch DolbyVision movies and programs?

Inner_Zone

pat100 wrote: »

If you want to watch TV from Netflix, Apple TV+ and Disney+ you should buy a TV that supports DolbyVision. The TV’s specs may list it as HDR-capable but unless it specifies “DolbyVision” many (and an increasing number) of the movies and programs cannot display optimally as the streaming producer intended.

Note that ALL TVs are capable of PLAYING DolbyVision-encoded movies and programs - it’s a question of how WELL they play them.

Are they? Most support HDR10 and therefore ignore DV as they cannot process it.

pat100 wrote: »

There are thousands of other, maybe more important, factors which can affect a TV’s picture ranging from the construction of the screen, through the colour and pattern of your wallpaper, to your colour vision.
You can spend hours adjusting the set’s calibrations and the manufacturer may build-in DolbyVision approximations but unless it says “DolbyVision” what you see won’t be DolbyVision.

Luckily, nearly all brands of TV do support DolbyVision. So, you can concentrate on other things, like price!

Unluckily, Samsung, who produce most of the worlds tellys, have decided to ignore Netflix, Apple and Disney and don’t support DolbyVision on most of their TVs - though they do on their smartphones.

Thought it was no Samsungs TV's with DV as they are in the HDR10+ camp along with Panasonic who do support both DV and HDR10+ on some TV's.

pat100 wrote: »

So, the advice must be: if you want a TV set that stands the best chance of optimally displaying streaming content from Netflix, Apple and Disney - don’t buy a Samsung!
Now, you probably won’t trust someone who appears to be a Samsung-hater and your neighbour’s Samsung telly looks “breathtakingly realistic” but - bottom line:

Why buy a TV that doesn’t support DolbyVision to watch DolbyVision movies and programs?

OP you need to do some research first.

RumRat

pat100 wrote: »

Why buy a TV that doesn’t support DolbyVision to watch DolbyVision movies and programs?

Because, possibly, it will be a TV that supports HDR10+. The problem with Dolby Vision is that the TV manufacturers have to pay a licence fee for each TV.
Samsung have HDR10+ developed with 20th Century Fox and Warner Bros as partners which is licence free and is as good as DV.
I'd be willing to bet that you wouldn't be able to pick out a DV v HDR10+.
It shouldn't be forgotten that LG have their own 'Advanced HDR by Technicolor'......All of these are direct competition to DV.
So, you don't need a DV TV to get the best out of anything.
It's a simple software update, should Samsung decide that it needs to offer it. I doubt they'll need to and it will depend on Dolby offering a better deal.
No current TV can use the full potential of DV, it was developed for Cinemas and not home theatres.

mobileron

My tip is buy it from Richersound for the free 6 year warranty.

pogofish

A better tip might be to post in the TV Forum..?

RumRat

pogofish wrote: »

A better tip might be to post in the TV Forum..?

No, that forum is just full of phone and TV service package discussions.
This is the Tech forum and the discussion is around the tech.

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pat100 wrote: »

If you want to watch TV from Netflix, Apple TV+ and Disney+ you should buy a TV that supports DolbyVision. The TV’s specs may list it as HDR-capable but unless it specifies “DolbyVision” many (and an increasing number) of the movies and programs cannot display optimally as the streaming producer intended.

Note that ALL TVs are capable of PLAYING DolbyVision-encoded movies and programs - it’s a question of how WELL they play them.

There are thousands of other, maybe more important, factors which can affect a TV’s picture ranging from the construction of the screen, through the colour and pattern of your wallpaper, to your colour vision.
You can spend hours adjusting the set’s calibrations and the manufacturer may build-in DolbyVision approximations but unless it says “DolbyVision” what you see won’t be DolbyVision.

Luckily, nearly all brands of TV do support DolbyVision. So, you can concentrate on other things, like price!

Unluckily, Samsung, who produce most of the worlds tellys, have decided to ignore Netflix, Apple and Disney and don’t support DolbyVision on most of their TVs - though they do on their smartphones.

So, the advice must be: if you want a TV set that stands the best chance of optimally displaying streaming content from Netflix, Apple and Disney - don’t buy a Samsung!
Now, you probably won’t trust someone who appears to be a Samsung-hater and your neighbour’s Samsung telly looks “breathtakingly realistic” but - bottom line:

Why buy a TV that doesn’t support DolbyVision to watch DolbyVision movies and programs?

Is it just me that finds that a peculiar addition?

pat100

Inner Zone
I did a huge amount of research and posted in the hope of helping folk who perhaps don’t have the time to do that.
Your comments are incorrect. I chose my words very carefully.
All tvs do play DV encoded movies. Some don’t play them well as they only play the HD10 core of that DV stream
”Thought it was no Samsungs ...” I don’t understand your comment.
“OP you need to do some research first” Thank you for that advice. If you claim that my post is factually incorrect I’d be interested to see your research on which you base your criticism.

pat100

Colin-Maybe
I was just trying to lightheartedly convince folk that I am not a fan of another tech company who is trying to rubbish Samsung. E.g. An Apple-fanboi

pat100

RumRat
Thanks for your comments. IMHO, all the points you make are correct and valid. I excluded most of them because, for my one tip:

“If you want to watch TV from Netflix, Apple TV+ and Disney+“

I purposely excluded Prime as:
1. I wanted to keep the post short.
2. Netflix and Apple TV+ are probably currently of interest to more people than Prime.
3. The reviews I have read comparing HDR10 to HDR10+ suggest that the discrepancies are less than those between HDR10 and DV
4. I wanted to avoid possible confusion between the similar names: “HDR10 HDR” and “HDR10+ HDR”
5. The list of TVs and brands that don’t directly support HDR10+ is far larger than those who don’t support DV due to its slightly inferior preformance, lack of streams available and it’s lack of support for future higher-bitrate TV sets. The lack of support for DV is stark by comparison.
6. You can’t watch Netflix, AppleTV+ or Disney+ in HDR10+ as they default to HDR10.
7. The Apple TV boxes don’t support HDR10+

I’d argue that, if I might generalise, your suggestion that DV support is not important in TV set choice does not put to bed my question of:
“Why buy a TV that doesn’t support Dolby Vision to watch Dolby Vision movies and programs?”

RumRat

the problem with doing too much research is that you eventually fall into the trap of believing that one or another technology is far superior to others.
To 99% of people frequenting forums like this one, the differences in all the formats is negligible. Most people don't even calibrate their TV's, so, already they are not viewing optimum pictures. I don't mean this as an insult, they probably have more important things to be getting on with..:)

I have an LG Oled that supports DV and a Samsung Qled that doesn't. Watching Netflix, I prefer the Qled, but, that may be because it is in a dedicated TV room and has been calibrated correctly. The LG also has great picture quality, but it's not in the best place to bring out the very best in it.

I'm not knocking DV, just not agreeing that it should be one of the main drivers in buying a TV when you need to take so much more into account to achieve the TV's potential.

Another point of interest to buyers is that DV is not necessarily available on the budget sets, those on this forum seek.

Samsung will, eventually do some deal and put DV support onto their top TV's via a software update. It's a shame they aren't doing it at the moment, but, it's something I can live without....At least until next years TV upgrade...;)