Employer refusing Push Doctor sick note.

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Apparently they can have access to your medical records.

In the FAQ - Will I see my own GP via the video consultation?, it says:

''...won't be the GP you are used to from your surgery, they will be an NHS trained UK GP and will still have access to your medical records should they need them.''

Blatchford

[Deleted User] wrote:

Apparently they can have access to your medical records.

In the FAQ - Will I see my own GP via the video consultation?, it says:

''...won't be the GP you are used to from your surgery, they will be an NHS trained UK GP and will still have access to your medical records should they need them.''

Well I sincerely hope they are lying about that but because that would be a gross breach of data security by the NHS. NHS policy is clear. The GP has your medical information. If you agree they can share this in an anonymised form with certain organisations. Also, if you agree, they can share, on a national database, some information (but it isn't all of it) which is accessible by other parts of the NHS. If some private company has access to that data without or permission then I am going to be very annoyed. I decide if someone has access to my medical records. Some other organisation doesn't have that right. And think about it - this is a doctor who doesn't even know that the person they are talking to is the person that they claim to be.

I shall certainly be talking to my GP about whether that claim is true.

Undervalued

Blatchford wrote: »

Well I sincerely hope they are lying about that but because that would be a gross breach of data security by the NHS. NHS policy is clear. The GP has your medical information. If you agree they can share this in an anonymised form with certain organisations. Also, if you agree, they can share, on a national database, some information (but it isn't all of it) which is accessible by other parts of the NHS. If some private company has access to that data without or permission then I am going to be very annoyed. I decide if someone has access to my medical records. Some other organisation doesn't have that right. And think about it - this is a doctor who doesn't even know that the person they are talking to is the person that they claim to be.

I shall certainly be talking to my GP about whether that claim is true.

Actually, if you take the trouble to read their website it says that the first thing the Push doctor asks you is to show some ID! If you have chosen to pay to see this doctor (via video) surely it is then up to you whether you give them permission to see your records? So, presumably as they are a private service, no ID no consultation?

Which is more than happens if you turn up at A&E, or indeed as a temporary resident at a NHS GP practice in another part of the UK.

There is no obligation in this country to carry (or even have) any form of ID so the NHS have to take you at your word and provide treatment.

A private (face to face) GP near me recommends that details of any treatment they provide is sent to your GP. However you can refuse permission and they will still treat you. Another similar service insist on informing your NHS GP and won't see you without that permission. Presumably both options are acceptable to the GMC?

I have online access to my NHS medical record so if I choose to see somebody privately I can take a printed copy if I so choose.

Masomnia

I agree with other posters on this thread in as much as medical opinions are advisory and employers don't necessarily have to take them into account, although they must act reasonably. That doesn't seem to be the question though. If it were a case of your Push Doctor recommending a certain working pattern then that would be one thing, but it isn't, it's a question of whether you're due SSP or not.

As far as I can tell you've had medical advice from a registered GP that you're not fit for work, in the form of a fit note, and as as far as SSP is concerned I don't see how your employer can get around that, and I think it's well worth you calling HMRC to seek their guidance on next steps.

jobbingmusician

No-one seems to have analysed the fact that there are two separate issues here. The first is the fact that the employer originally said that the first week would be fine, and the second is the employer's refusal to accept the Push Dr note after that first week.

In the first week, the employee was told that things would be fine. Whether this was a clear acceptance of the PD note, or an acknowledgment that the employee had the right to self-certify for that week, the employee should clearly be paid for the week and should raise a grievance if this is now being disputed.

From the 2nd week onwards, the employer has the right to refuse anything but a GP certificate, I believe. However, they are being unbelievably naive in believing that anyone can get a prompt appointment with their GP. I think our current practice waiting time is between 4-6 weeks.....

robatwork

Undervalued wrote: »

A bit like your link!

You need to delete the colon at the end of the blue link for it to work!

Indeed it was shonky. But I'm not making life & death decisions fortunately for everyone.

I can't find anywhere for the errant colon, so let's just give it a medical definition as a spa5tic colon and leave it here: