Precautions in case of a Labour win

[Deleted User]

Heh. Good point, well made.

scaredofdebt

mat5664 wrote: »

back onto the non party political facts:

- The planned utilities nationalisation together with the reallocation of shares to workers would knock 20% off Pension values

- Higher rate tac relief would go.

- Taxes would go up for many people, not just the rich.

If you are retired, with your pension and mortgage free, then good luck to you. If not and you are working, it's not going to be much fun. I am not rich by means but am taking action to protect what assets I have in case Corbyn gets in via the SNP.

Do you have any evidence for this or are you just making it up?

kangoora

Socajam wrote: »

Thank you for this.
The last the people of the United Kingdom wants is for the vultures of American businesses to get their greedy hands on the NHS.
If you think Labour is bad, just let the greedy Americans through the door of the NHS, they will strip everything that is of value and leave just the bare flooring boards.
If people think that bankruptcy is high now, let the greedy Americans in.
I just hope all the people rise up and no to the Americans taking over the NHS because all of us money or not will be the losers.

Really?

I think you need to invest in a better quality of tinfoil - it's obvious the brand you are using isn't thick enough.

zagfles

fred246 wrote: »

I think people suffer just because they don't know what is going on. I was hearing the other day about a man who needed a knee replacement and was in great pain. He had seen the surgeon and kept waiting for his date. It was now nearly two years. He had never thought of going private. Just trusted the NHS. Labour had strict waiting list times so this would never happen. The Tories just quietly abandoned them. Some people know the Tories are in and they are supposed to pay privately. Some people just don't understand the system.

No. Mid Staffs did. That's what strict targets gets you.

zagfles

shinytop wrote: »

I think you'll find it the same as most organisations in this country where assigning such stereotypes to the USA is tolerated if not actively encouraged. Other groups/nations are somewhat more protected.

Like anti-semites who constantly accuse others of racism.

AnotherJoe

mat5664 wrote: »

back onto the non party political facts:

- The planned utilities nationalisation together with the reallocation of shares to workers would knock 20% off Pension values

No, it wouldnt.
Please show your workings. I'm up for a laugh.

zagfles

mat5664 wrote: »

back onto the non party political facts:

- The planned utilities nationalisation together with the reallocation of shares to workers would knock 20% off Pension values

- Higher rate tac relief would go.

- Taxes would go up for many people, not just the rich.

The thing that worries me about Labour is not that they'll put taxes up, but that they won't put taxes up, and fund their spending by either borrowing (aka Greece) or printing money (aka Venezeula).

If you look at the actually successful socialist governments round the world, such as the Nordic countries, they have high taxes on ordinary people, very low debt, and stable currencies. Also probably the best ever Labour govt we had in the UK, the post war one, managed to not only create the NHS and the welfare state but also pay down national debt rather than borrowing!

But they'll probably make the same idiotic promise all recent Labour manifestos have, that they won't raise taxes on ordinary people. And hope people believe the fantasy that taxing moving targets like the rich and multinational corporations will work. It won't, as proved time and time again.

Turpinr

think you will find you are incorrect. However, being a Labour supporter and being a Corbyn supporter are two different things. I think most people in this particular section are generally level headed and without bias and can see good and bad on both sides. They may well support one side or the other at elections but you will generally see stronger debate in this section than some others. Hence why blatent bias is usually called out.

100/1 I think is fair.
By the way I'm a Labour voter, you got that right, well done, but not necessarily a Corbyn fan.

Turpinr

How come when you don't agree with Tory bias, you're being biased yourself ?

[Deleted User]

I can see why people would vote Liberal. And Tory. And SNP. And Independent. And even Monster Raving Looney.

Anyone voting Corbyn has an interesting logic. Socialism didn’t work last 75 times it was tried in various places. Bound to work this time around. Right?

If he were to get elected then there won’t be an asset, a pension or an investment that is safe anywhere in Britain.

And that’s putting aside the fact that Labour is the first party to be under EHRC investigation for racism since BNP.