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Precautions in case of a Labour win
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That'll be even worse, it's delay and uncertaintly that's causing economic problems now, and if remain win you can be sure leavers will want a "best of 3" :rotfl:ZingPowZing wrote: »My take is similar zagfles but believe the priority is the other way round:
In the event, a Labour Govt promise to put the Brexit issue back to the country within six months, when one of the options will be to remain on current terms.
No remainer should expect more.
We can negotiate a closer relationship though. And why says we can't rejoin, the SNPs plan is to do exactly that if they get independance.Corbyn is 69/70. I'm no fan. He's a Leaver. But that's ok. We can always choose a new PM.
But once we're out of the EU, that is a far bigger deal, there would be no way back.0 -
That'll be even worse, it's delay and uncertaintly that's causing economic problems now, and if remain win you can be sure leavers will want a "best of 3"
And if a benevolent god gave us the chance to review our purchase of Brexit, it would be no more benevolent than regs that ensure we can review the purchase of socks, car or house. We know what remain looks like, now we know what Leave looks like, are we still sure that this is what we want to do? We make the 2020 vote binding rather advisory. Then we will get Brexit done.0 -
Yes, even worse. He talks about assassinating and lynching political opponents, calls ex ministers even Labour ones "murderers", is open about being a Marxist and wanting to "overthrow capitalism". I wouldn't trust either of them with any sort of power for 5 minutes let alone 5 years.ZingPowZing wrote: »Spotted three glaring mistakes in that short message Mordko.
McDonnell is different,
Yeah probably like last time assuming that the rich and corporations they're targeting won't take steps to avoid their taxes. The 50p tax rate was found to raise no extra revenue, cutting corporation tax didn't reduce the tax take. Aiming for a moving target who can easily rearrange their affairs to avoid their taxes will likely cost revenue not raise it.and the Labour manifesto is going to be costed.
That's why countries like the Nordic ones, the closest thing in the world to successful socialist governments, have high taxes on ordinary people.
I'd have a bit more faith in them if they'd actually come together and proposed a softer Brexit deal that could have got through parliament. But as my (ex Labour, now independant) MP says, there was never any intention of them doing that, they just wanted to thwart the govt.The party is a broad church (70% correlation between voting Labour and remain) unlike the Conservative Party which has gambled its future on something that is antithetical to the interests of the country it serves.
3) Kier Starmer, Hilary Benn etc0 -
. And why says we can't rejoin, the SNPs plan is to do exactly that if they get independance.
No, do not kid yourself.
Both Johnson and Tusk have said that Brexit will be irreversible, and that is before hostilities ensue.
Scotland should sue to remain. Long live The Queen but after she's gone, it's all over for the UK and the Commonwealth imo.0 -
Are you in Birkenhead, zagfles?0
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No. ManchesterZingPowZing wrote: »Are you in Birkenhead, zagfles?0 -
McDonnell is different, and the Labour manifesto is going to be costed.
On a different subject... I have a beautiful authentic medieval bridge going for a fraction of real price... Let’s say 1M. Just for you.0 -
They also said TM's deal wouldn't be renegotiated.ZingPowZing wrote: »No, do not kid yourself.
Both Johnson and Tusk have said that Brexit will be irreversible, and that is before hostilities ensue.
Of course re-entry will be possible. Not for a while, and in the meantime steps could be taken in that direction, eg a customs union, Norway+ type arrangement...maybe will even become popular once people see the economic damage Brexit will do...0 -
Deleted_User wrote: »On a different subject... I have a beautiful authentic medieval bridge going for a fraction of real price... Let’s say 1M. Just for you.
As opposed to £88 billion cost of HS2?
£60 billion Hinkley Point? With decommissioning costs the present for your grandchildren?
£200 billion to renew Trident, a vanity project nuclear deterrent that will be nullified by a mobile app before it ever leaves the slipway?
£3 billion in lost wealth, every two weeks, consequence of brexit.
People may grown up thinking the Conservative Party were sensible housekeepers, but they have now gone s**t or bust on brexit.0 -
Is that Ivan Lewis?
Well, one can see why he, and his supporters, would vehemently oppose Corbyn.
Corbyn, Lewis, others will come and go - but there is no getting back into the EU after Brexit.
Don't you know that?0
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