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Medical Negligence

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  • bpt91
    bpt91 Posts: 6 Forumite
    born_again wrote: »
    Please do not take this the wrong way.
    It happened 3 years ago. But you did nothing in the mean time due to "i will get it done as soon as i can find the extended required time of 6 months off work due to my job being labor based"
    Surly if you have a labour based role, it should have been done or you are just making it worse?

    Same after opp, why not keep chasing if you knew you needed physio?


    Hi,


    To my understanding once it was snapped nothing else could have been damaged as that was maximum damage possible to the acl, the movement and pain was fine believe it or not, you cant really feel any issues unless when twisting your knee sharply so i could continue as i was just sports and anything active based was out the window, the lock ups was something to do with loose ligament getting tangled/caught and it just started happening more often. I did really want to get it done at the time but i was working somewhere which offered little support when i explained the situation and needed up to 6 months off. I then started a new job which was a lot better at this and allowed me to have the time needed.


    With regards to physio i had no idea about the pre op one, i did chase it my self in the end and i regret not doing it sooner but just thought after asking numerous times on the day it will come eventually.


    But all is good i at least really wanted an MRI and not for the doc to be like it is what it is i am afraid, now just the thought of having done all over again is a nightmare
  • bpt91
    bpt91 Posts: 6 Forumite
    edited 29 October 2019 at 4:40PM
    Yes - those are all good points.


    I spent a week in hospital in February. My discharge letter said I'd have a follow up appointment with a particular consultant within a few weeks. After six weeks I rang his medical secretary and she told me that the request for a follow up had never been passed onto them! If I'd not telephoned...


    Again, my wife was referred to a specialist a couple of months ago. He wanted a CT scan done and booked a follow up appointment to discuss the results. After a few weeks of not hearing about the scan she rang up. Was told the appointment letter (for 7pm on a Sunday!) had gone out that day. We thought that a bit suspicious. Had scan done, saw specialist the following week, and the results weren't through! Someone had obviously forgotten to arrange the scan*.


    The OP does not seem to have been very pro-active in doing what they could have done themselves.


    EDIT: Not being critical of OP - just pointing out the, to me, obvious. But not everybody has worked in the NHS to realise this.


    OP - you do also know that personal injury claims (I'm thinking about the original failure in A&E to do a scan) have to be initiated within three years


    * Result - wasted consultant appointment




    I agree i could have moved a bit faster, its the first time i have ever had to have something serious done. i do not really go to hospital or docs unless really needed, lesson learnt for next time i guess
  • bpt91
    bpt91 Posts: 6 Forumite
    Not my area of expertise when I was in the NHS, but I would suggest that is bo77ocks!


    Why was the operation carried out at a non-local (I presume) hospital? If the NHS could cope with that sort of out of area referral (which happens all the time) there's no reason at all why the after-care couldn't be transferred back too.


    At the very least(!) the operating hospital should have sent some sort of discharge letter to your GP (whom I assume made the original referral - didn't they?) outlining what sort of post-operative care was required. From my experience, you ought to have had a copy of this letter. What did it say about rehab physio? Should your GP have been organising this? (Indeed, what has your GP been saying throughout all of this?).


    You could try getting copies of your medical records from your GP and the respective hospitals (incl both A&E depts.) to see what they say.


    Usual first route of hospital complaints is to go through Patient Advice and Liaison Service (PALS) and then whatever is their formal complaints procedure. Check their website.




    Hi,



    Thanks for the advice,


    the reason it was done at an out or area hospital was because when i had the second incident when running i was in East London i mean its not exactly half way up the country its 5 miles away give or take so was a bit of poor excuse or a terrible policy if true, so that is where second initial diagnosis and MRI scans were done. My discharge notes was sent to my GP, correct and i do have a copy and they do not mention anything about physio just what had been done.


    But all is good i now have an MRI booked after today's meeting so that is what i wanted ideally just did not want to be told that nothing else that can be done.


    Thank you
  • OK. Good luck with the scan and hopefully any damage can be put right.


    There's really no excuse for the NHS not organising a physio rehab programme for you. Yes, you could have chased it up, but if you aren't used to dealing with this sort of thing you could reasonably expect the NHS to sort it all out for you.


    Does your GP have any view on whether any body was at fault here?


    (I don't want to encourage you to sue the NHS or anything as medical negligence can be difficult to prove, but if the scan identifies that you may have suffered unnecessary further damage to the joint because of either 1. the original mis-diagnosis in A&E, or 2. lack of a rehab programme after the first operation, I'd be mightily pi55ed off it was me).
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    I had a knee replacement in Jan 2018 followed by a Manipulation under Anaesthetic 2 months later due to restricted range of movement. The knee replacement and manipulation were successful but I am still in pain every day. Even after private and NHS physio for months afterwards.

    On seeing my consultant (private op) he said that not everyone gets the result they wish for and that sometimes people can still have issues. There is never a guarantee. I need the other knee replacing but I am holding off as long as I can !
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