Stopped for careless driving

igorjenz

Hello,
Got stopped for careless driving by undercover car, which I admit without any problems, but the thing is that I haven't received a penalty or nothing on the place of stoppage. They told me that, they will look to video they recorded, and decide will they proceed with it or not, and that I should wait for six weeks, to understand will I be prosecuted for it or not.


Do they have such a practice? As I never heard about this before, and I was never been stopped for careless driving.


Also they were screaming and pushing me to say on their cameras that I did something seriously wrong, that I was speeding, for which I answered that I wasn't speeding, and they told me that I bury myself.


Also they haven't even introduced to me, and haven't showed their police licence, and just went to look inside my car, and touching my stuff, my wallet without even asking or telling me about this.


I just wonder, is it legal what I have received from the police officers?

Aylesbury_Duck

Were they actually police? It sounds like a very odd set of circumstances, unless we’re only getting part of the story....

If they were police, you’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

igorjenz

Yes, they were police in undercover car, with black-yellow cameras on all of them, with laptop, where they located all my details, and all other police stuff.


This is the full story, maybe I missed the part that they were tailgating me for a 5 minutes, and allowed me to pass the traffic very quickly.

photome

igorjenz wrote: »

Yes, they were police in undercover car, with black-yellow cameras on all of them, with laptop, where they located all my details, and all other police stuff.


This is the full story, maybe I missed the part that they were tailgating me for a 5 minutes, and allowed me to pass the traffic very quickly.

what does very quickly mean?


dangerous overtaking possibly ?


breaking the speed limit to overtake?

Car_54

igorjenz wrote: »

Hello,
Got stopped for careless driving by undercover car, which I admit without any problems, but the thing is that I haven't received a penalty or nothing on the place of stoppage. They told me that, they will look to video they recorded, and decide will they proceed with it or not, and that I should wait for six weeks, to understand will I be prosecuted for it or not.

You may have mis-remembered. They have six months to start court proceedings.

AdrianC

igorjenz wrote: »

Got stopped for careless driving by undercover car, which I admit without any problems, but the thing is that I haven't received a penalty or nothing on the place of stoppage. They told me that, they will look to video they recorded, and decide will they proceed with it or not, and that I should wait for six weeks, to understand will I be prosecuted for it or not.

Do they have such a practice? As I never heard about this before, and I was never been stopped for careless driving.

Yes, they can do that.
You were given notice of intention to prosecute (NIP) at the roadside. There's now six months (not six weeks) for a decision on whether to prosecute, whether to issue a fixed penalty, whether to invite you to an afternoon of tea and biscuits, or whether to just treat it as a roadside caution.

To relate it to what happens after a photo...
After a photo, an s172 request to identify the driver is sent to the keeper. That's not needed, because you were obviously driving.
Then a NIP is sent to the person who agrees they were driving. You had that at the roadside.
Then the decision on whether, and how, to prosecute is sent... That's where you are.

Also they were screaming and pushing me to say on their cameras that I did something seriously wrong, that I was speeding, for which I answered that I wasn't speeding

Speeding is not careless driving.

Why did they stop you? No, really...?

Also they haven't even introduced to me, and haven't showed their police licence, and just went to look inside my car, and touching my stuff, my wallet without even asking or telling me about this.

If they "haven't even introduced to you", then how do you know they were police? Are you suggesting they shouldn't be allowed to check inside your car when you've been stopped...?

Forgive me for asking, but given your writing and name, could there have been some language issues?

I just wonder, is it legal what I have received from the police officers?

I can't see anything inherently wrong from what you've said so far.

igorjenz wrote: »

Yes, they were police in undercover car, with black-yellow cameras on all of them, with laptop, where they located all my details, and all other police stuff.

So they were fairly clearly identified, then.

This is the full story, maybe I missed the part that they were tailgating me for a 5 minutes, and allowed me to pass the traffic very quickly.

Maybe you did.

And now we know exactly why you were stopped.

SHAFT

AdrianC wrote: »

Yes, they can do that.
You were given notice of intention to prosecute (NIP) at the roadside. There's now six months (not six weeks) for a decision on whether to prosecute, whether to issue a fixed penalty, whether to invite you to an afternoon of tea and biscuits, or whether to just treat it as a roadside caution.

To relate it to what happens after a photo...
After a photo, an s172 request to identify the driver is sent to the keeper. That's not needed, because you were obviously driving.
Then a NIP is sent to the person who agrees they were driving. You had that at the roadside.
Then the decision on whether, and how, to prosecute is sent... That's where you are.


Speeding is not careless driving.

Why did they stop you? No, really...?


If they "haven't even introduced to you", then how do you know they were police? Are you suggesting they shouldn't be allowed to check inside your car when you've been stopped...?

Forgive me for asking, but given your writing and name, could there have been some language issues?


I can't see anything inherently wrong from what you've said so far.


So they were fairly clearly identified, then.


Maybe you did.

And now we know exactly why you were stopped.

He's got a fair point unless you know where the power of search comes from for careless driving?

Car_54

SHAFT wrote: »

He's got a fair point unless you know where the power of search comes from for careless driving?

CAB say that the police can search "if they have reasonable grounds to suspect that you have committed a crime or are about to commit a crime"
If true, they certainly had grounds in this case.

Aylesbury_Duck

igorjenz wrote: »

This is the full story, maybe I missed the part that they were tailgating me for a 5 minutes, and allowed me to pass the traffic very quickly.

Yeah, maybe you did miss that part....

Drip-feeding information as the thread develops just wastes people's time. Either post the exact circumstances and ask for advice or leave it. Advice you want to hear based on your carefully edited course of events is useless to you.

Norman_Castle

they told me that I bury myself.

Did you bury yourself?

igorjenz

Car_54 wrote: »

CAB say that the police can search "if they have reasonable grounds to suspect that you have committed a crime or are about to commit a crime"
If true, they certainly had grounds in this case.

No they can't, it states, that they should tell the name of the officer who is going to look inside the car, and what is the reason for it, and what is he looking for. That what UK law states.

Before you’re searched
Before you’re searched the police officer must tell you:

their name and police station
what they expect to find, for example drugs
the reason they want to search you, for example if it looks like you’re hiding something
why they are legally allowed to search you
that you can have a record of the search and if this isn’t possible at the time, how you can get a copy