Estate Agent doesn't allow guests

newsgroup_monkey

Cakeguts wrote: »

Your girlfriend doesn't get on with sharing accommodation with other people. She puts what she wants ahead of what the person she is sharing with wants. That is an indication of the fact that she needs to rent something on her own.


Do not get involved in this. You are only getting one side of a story. It is quite possible that lots of things she does annoys him because they are thoughtless and only of benefit to her.



Quite frankly she sounds a nightmare to live with. It sounds as if she is trying to force what she wants onto the other person. He is involving the EA because she is so persistent and is wanting to get her own way in this. I feel sorry for the person she is renting with.



When she moves she needs to rent on her own because she behaves as if she is entitled and that is not good for a share.

Are you on Mumsnet by any chance?

LTB

G_M

Cakeguts wrote: »

Your girlfriend doesn't get on with sharing accommodation with other people. She puts what she wants ahead of what the person she is sharing with wants. That is an indication of the fact that she needs to rent something on her own.

Do not get involved in this. You are only getting one side of a story. It is quite possible that lots of things she does annoys him because they are thoughtless and only of benefit to her.

Quite frankly she sounds a nightmare to live with. It sounds as if she is trying to force what she wants onto the other person. He is involving the EA because she is so persistent and is wanting to get her own way in this. I feel sorry for the person she is renting with.

When she moves she needs to rent on her own because she behaves as if she is entitled and that is not good for a share.

Interesting to hear the other view. Are you playing devil's advocate cakeguts ....?

But yes, the trouble with this site is of necessity we only ever hear one side. And in this case it's even less reliable as it's reported by a 3rd party, not the gf herself.


So the reality of what's happening in this house-share is anybody's guess.


But the responses so far have been reasonable and legally accurate, based purely on the facts as presented.

Cakeguts

newsgroup_monkey wrote: »

Are you on Mumsnet by any chance?

LTB

What is mumsnet?

Cakeguts

G_M wrote: »

Interesting to hear the other view. Are you playing devil's advocate cakeguts ....?

But yes, the trouble with this site is of necessity we only ever hear one side. And in this case it's even less reliable as it's reported by a 3rd party, not the gf herself.


So the reality of what's happening in this house-share is anybody's guess.


But the responses so far have been reasonable and legally accurate, based purely on the facts as presented.

The clue about the girlfriend being unreasonable is in the person she is sharing with feeling the need to contact the estate agent over this. The way the OP is written it comes over that the other person in the property is being unreasonable but if you read between the lines you can see that it is the girlfriend who is the unreasonable one and is trying to force what she wants on the person she is sharing with. To have got to this situation she will have been trying to force all sorts of things onto him that he doesn't want.



You can guarantee that the OP has only been told a very small amount of what she is trying to force on the other sharer. I would also assume that a guest staying one or two nights might turn into someone staying with her at least once a week. I can't understand the problem because if someone wants to visit her she can arrange for them to stay in a hotel especially if it is for only 1 night. This is why the whole thing doesn't make sense to me unless you realise that the girlfriend is the unreasonable one.

Comms69

Cakeguts wrote: »

The clue about the girlfriend being unreasonable is in the person she is sharing with feeling the need to contact the estate agent over this. The way the OP is written it comes over that the other person in the property is being unreasonable but if you read between the lines you can see that it is the girlfriend who is the unreasonable one and is trying to force what she wants on the person she is sharing with. To have got to this situation she will have been trying to force all sorts of things onto him that he doesn't want. - It's two separate tenancies, two separate lives. Reasonable is a subjective POV; so default to the legal position. Either can have guests.



You can guarantee that the OP has only been told a very small amount of what she is trying to force on the other sharer. - nothing. I would also assume that a guest staying one or two nights might turn into someone staying with her at least once a week. I can't understand the problem because if someone wants to visit her she can arrange for them to stay in a hotel especially if it is for only 1 night. This is why the whole thing doesn't make sense to me unless you realise that the girlfriend is the unreasonable one.

This is why moral judgments aren't helpful

Cakeguts

Comms69 wrote: »

This is why moral judgments aren't helpful

We haven't been told by the OP where the girlfriend thinks her guests are going to stay in this flat? If you read the OP the girlfriend says that she wants a friend from overseas to stay in the flat for a couple of nights. Overseas can be anywhere but it seems odd that someone would travel a long way and then only stay a couple of nights?



We have been told that the girlfriend stays over at the OPs house share but that it different from what she is requesting from her house share unless she intends to have a relationship with the overseas visitors.

Comms69

Cakeguts wrote: »

We haven't been told by the OP where the girlfriend thinks her guests are going to stay in this flat? - no we haven't. I'd presume in her room. If you read the OP the girlfriend says that she wants a friend from overseas to stay in the flat for a couple of nights. Overseas can be anywhere but it seems odd that someone would travel a long way and then only stay a couple of nights? - Not really, visiting the UK, stopping with her for few nights before going on to see other people? Also it's a no guest 'rule', whether overnight or for a few hours



We have been told that the girlfriend stays over at the OPs house share but that it different from what she is requesting from her house share unless she intends to have a relationship with the overseas visitors.

Well the legal position is she's entitled to have anyone she likes stay with her (whether or not she's sleeping with them)

princeofpounds

We haven't been told by the OP where the girlfriend thinks her guests are going to stay in this flat?

This is a fair point actually. I hadn't considered it given the way the situation was related.


If your girlfriend (sorry for saying daughter earlier, I thought I read that in an earlier post) rents a room, she can't practically use the communal spaces for her guests to sleep in without getting agreement.


And that would be somewhat unfair on the housemate, although a reasonable and friendly housemate would agree to it on an infrequent basis.


The reason I say practically is that she can of course invite them in, and let them bed down. But the housemate would be within his rights to turf them out in the middle of the night too.


I had assumed any guests would be staying in her room, which is a different matter.

steampowered

I doubt the EA or landlord are fussed. They likely think "what children" and are looking for the easiest way to resolve.

If you want to stay over, I would just stay over. If challenged, your GF can validly point out that (1) there is nothing restricting guests in the lease agreement, and (2) she is legally entitled to quiet enjoyment of the property.

In reality there is nothing much that the EA or flat mate can do about it. The suggestion by another poster that you could be rightfully "turfed out" in the night is just nonsense.

Though, you should be conscious of the flat mate's desire for privacy. But it is extremely unreasonable of him to think that he can prevent people from visiting a shared property.

onwards&upwards

Cakeguts wrote: »

What is mumsnet?

Pull the other one! :rotfl: