Estate Agent doesn't allow guests

princeofpounds

The EA/LL can do nothing about your daughter inviting guests over. Tenants are entitled to use the property they rent as their home like any normal person, and part of that is having guests over.


They can express opinions perhaps, but if they don't like it all they can do is refuse to renew the tenancy when it comes up for expiry (purely for preference reasons, they may decide to keep the housemate happy). Given that she probably wants to leave to escape the controlling housemate that's really no threat at all.


The housemate is the real issue here. He is not being reasonable, and frankly being rather creepy. I'd totally understand it if there was a different guest coming over every night for a party before being left alone in the house by your daughter, but opposing all guests is not reasonable, and he has almost no grounds to make that demand.


You say that they have different tenancy agreements. Therefore, they should be renting individual rooms with access to the common areas. The housemate has exactly zero say in what happens in her exclusive space. He doesn't rent it, he has no rights over it.


In the common areas, she can invite a guest in and he can ask them to leave. Unfortunately it's kind of a immovable object/unstoppable force kind of situation legally that doesn't really resolve anything - the law can't solve all personal disputes. However he certainly can't prohibit invited guests from transiting through common areas to her exclusive space.


There are two ways to play this out.


One would be for her to grow a backbone. Tell him to take a jump if he complains - that she is perfectly legally entitled to invite guests into her own residence and he has no place trying to control her. I'd probably throw a few creep/controlling accusations at him too, given the gender dynamics. And record the conversation covertly. Then I'd invite one or two or three of my biggest male friends to come over and hang out (in a purely friendly manner, unless the housemate loses it somehow). If the EA/LL interfere, tell them to take a jump too.


The other way would be to cower down and wait it out, then leave voluntarily. It easier in some ways, perhaps safer if they guy is really weird, but not exactly a lesson in assertiveness.

hb2

princeofpounds wrote: »

The EA/LL can do nothing about your daughter inviting guests over.

Girlfriend, not daughter.

princeofpounds

Probably best to consider choosing (jointly liable) flatmates

It doesn't sound like they are jointly and severally liable. They apparently have separate tenancy agreements - by implication to their separate rooms. The OP should really clear this up as they haven't been precise on this point yet.

Comms69

Separate contracts. Ignore him. Ignore the agent. Job done.

Comms69

princeofpounds wrote: »

It doesn't sound like they are jointly and severally liable. They apparently have separate tenancy agreements - by implication to their separate rooms. The OP should really clear this up as they haven't been precise on this point yet.

Yep, deleted as the difference between joint tenant and individual tenants, in terms of granted a licence (having a guest) are completely different.

AdrianC

hb2 wrote: »

Girlfriend, not daughter.

Well spotted - I made the same mistake.

sharp910sh

Just tell her to bring someone over. What is he going to do? Fight her? Just ignore him. He can complain to the estate agent, they cannot do anything either!!

Jumblebumble

sharp910sh wrote: »

Just tell her to bring someone over. What is he going to do? Fight her? Just ignore him. He can complain to the estate agent, they cannot do anything either!!

If the estate agent talks rubbish again invite him to put it in writing.
You will probably confirm that even the most stupid person thinks a little bit more about what they are willing to put in writing vs wibbling in a phone conversation and I suspect this will end their involvement

Cakeguts

Your girlfriend doesn't get on with sharing accommodation with other people. She puts what she wants ahead of what the person she is sharing with wants. That is an indication of the fact that she needs to rent something on her own.


Do not get involved in this. You are only getting one side of a story. It is quite possible that lots of things she does annoys him because they are thoughtless and only of benefit to her.



Quite frankly she sounds a nightmare to live with. It sounds as if she is trying to force what she wants onto the other person. He is involving the EA because she is so persistent and is wanting to get her own way in this. I feel sorry for the person she is renting with.



When she moves she needs to rent on her own because she behaves as if she is entitled and that is not good for a share.

Chrysalis

Comms69 wrote: »

Separate contracts. Ignore him. Ignore the agent. Job done.

Pretty much it, especially if she has already made the decision to move at end of her tenancy.