Current agents refuse to give me a reference til I give the my notice. What should I do?

need_an_answer

and what date do you pay your rent?

need_an_answer

With regard to the referencing issue....ask your LL direct for a reference or confirm with your LL that they are happy for you to give contact details to the new agency to request reference as required.

need_an_answer

so you need to give one months notice before the 29th October that you will be moving out on the 28th November

cashmonger

need_an_answer wrote: »

and what date do you pay your rent?

Ah I had put that earlier in the thread as that is why I didn't mention it again. 23rd.

need_an_answer

So my understanding would be that you need to pay rent on 23rd October,and assuming you give notice of one month you move out by 28th nov.

That's assuming that you pay your rent in advance to allow it to reach the LL by the due date of the 29th october

ACG

Can you ask them for a breakdown of payments made and dates?
Surely if that shows all of your payments were made on the 1st of the month and your tenancy agreement says payments are due on the 1st then it shows you have made all of your payments?

cashmonger

ACG wrote: »

Can you ask them for a breakdown of payments made and dates?
Surely if that shows all of your payments were made on the 1st of the month and your tenancy agreement says payments are due on the 1st then it shows you have made all of your payments?

Ask who? The payments come out from my bank on the 23rd always via direct debit.

There is an online dashboard with this agent and the dates which they credit the rent as having been paid do seem rather stagged in between the 23rd and up to the 28th as I see and the receipts say for example

Rent for period 29/09/2019 - 28/10/2019

Account debited on 24th Sep 2019

G_M

Stop focussing on the date rent is paid. This is only relevant when it comes to how much should be paid on the final rent payment date.

It is not relevant to the serving of notice.

Tenancy Period
29th May 2017 - 28th May 2018 - Past Tenancy

and has been SPT since then.

So tenancy periods would run from 29th to 28th of each month.

You must serve a full tenancy periods notice, so serve on/before 28th to expire the 28th of the following month. It IS all explained, with an example, in the link provided.......

However, you also said:

The original paper one I sign was for till 30 may

which means your tenancy periods run from [STRIKE]30th[/STRIKE]31st to [STRIKE]29th[/STRIKE]30th of each month. It would appear from what you say that the agent has made an error with their 'dashboard'.
(edited to correct dates)


Do you still have the original contract showing it runs from ??? what date?? to the 30th May 2017 which would prove what dates your periodic tenancy runs from/to?

cashmonger

G_M wrote: »

Do you still have the original contract showing it runs from ??? what date?? to the 30th May 2017 which would prove what dates your periodic tenancy runs from/to?

Yes I just looked at it and it starts from 30 may 2017 and doesn't give an end date but says the term is for 6 months from the 30th may 2017. The start date being from then rather than the start of the next month was just due to having one or two days overlap at my previous place. So in this case how do you count 1 month when it starts at the tail end of the month?

Regarding the agents and the referencing problem. These ones who are being obstinate aren't actually the original agents who I signed the contract with. I have never even spoken to them in person or met any of them. They live on the other side of the country down south and have only corresponded with them by email.

The original agents were the property builders and they did the original paper contract for me which ran for a year and some months (going periodic after the initial 6 month term was up) until I got a letter in the post one day saying it had been sold and these new agents were to take over and manage it for the new landlord.

So I rang to ask the initial agents for a reference instead but the correct department were not in office when I asked on friday and will be back on monday.

I wish I had given their details in the first place because these ones were so much more agreeable and I didn't have to fight tooth and nail to get any cooperation from them like I do with the current ones; probably because the original ones are not a 'high street' agent and are rather the managing team for the company that builds the properties.

I replied to the current agents saying I would not give my notice until I had secured a new tenancy and that I would give notice the moment a new tenancy was secured. I also told them I don't see why they refuse to do it when it is in their interest for me to move given that they will be able to charge fees for re-marketing and rent increases and their refusal means I will have to stay at the property.

missile

Is there a LEGAL requirement for the agent to give a reference?