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Improving wifi / wired hone network connection

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  • esuhl
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    arciere wrote: »
    Yes, and there is a reason why it is this way, because 1, 6 and 11 are the only non-overlapping channels you can have.

    That's clearly not true! Channels 2 and 7 are non-overlapping!
    arciere wrote: »
    If you choose channel 5, for example, you end up having only two non-overlapping channels, which is 5 and 10.
    Always best to use THE SAME channel rather than an ADJACENT channel, as this will only cause interference, as also mentioned by the article posted earlier.

    I agree. That's why your advice to blindly stick to channels 1, 6 and 11 isn't valid.
  • arciere
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    esuhl wrote: »
    That's clearly not true! Channels 2 and 7 are non-overlapping!

    Good Lord...yes....of course channels 2 and 7 are non-overlapping, but if you use channels 2 and 7 you end up using channel 12 if you want to have 3 usable channels, which is not a channel used everywhere, so you end up having only 2 usable channels rather than 3, which makes it not a brilliant idea.
  • thorganby
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    arciere wrote: »
    Yes, and there is a reason why it is this way, because 1, 6 and 11 are the only non-overlapping channels you can have. If you choose channel 5, for example, you end up having only two non-overlapping channels, which is 5 and 10.
    Always best to use THE SAME channel rather than an ADJACENT channel, as this will only cause interference, as also mentioned by the article posted earlier.

    It may be theoretically better to use non overlapping channels but in the real world it makes very little difference because adjacent channel interference is at a much attenuated level to have any effect within your property.
  • mgfvvc
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    mksysb wrote: »
    Wired is always going to be the best. I'm using a powerline and had no problems, probably worth a try in your case.


    Wired is definitely best, if you can install it without too much trouble. Powerline can be good, but I found it didn't work well in my house. I had BT Whole Home Wifi for a time but it was very unreliable. I replaced it with TP-Link Deco M5, which "just works". Some reviews suggest that it has poor ping times, which might make it unsuitable for gaming.
  • mart44
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    I switched the VM Superhub to modem mode and installed an Orbi mesh system. Not cheap but it works well.
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  • arciere
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    thorganby wrote: »
    It may be theoretically better to use non overlapping channels but in the real world it makes very little difference because adjacent channel interference is at a much attenuated level to have any effect within your property.
    That's not the case. When you do a 'WiFi scan' to check what channels are more congested, you are actually looking at Wireless Access Points, you are completely ignoring all the other (which are the majority) devices that use that same network on that same channel (that is, all the clients connecting to that access point, like phones, laptops, etc).

    So when you see 5 other networks on channel 1, for example, you should expect lots of other devices, potentially much closer to you, that are sending and receiving radio signals on that same channel.
  • thorganby
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    arciere wrote: »
    That's not the case. When you do a 'WiFi scan' to check what channels are more congested, you are actually looking at Wireless Access Points, you are completely ignoring all the other (which are the majority) devices that use that same network on that same channel (that is, all the clients connecting to that access point, like phones, laptops, etc).

    So when you see 5 other networks on channel 1, for example, you should expect lots of other devices, potentially much closer to you, that are sending and receiving radio signals on that same channel.

    Your so called advice that "you should always use channels 1,6 or 11" because they do not overlap is rubbish in the real world but carry on believing it if you wish.

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  • arciere
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    thorganby wrote: »
    Your so called advice that "you should always use channels 1,6 or 11" because they do not overlap is rubbish in the real world but carry on believing it if you wish.

    :rotfl:
    If your 'real world' is your house and your two neighbours, then I don't know, maybe :j

    Thank God people are still paying me for my rubbish ;)
  • esuhl
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    arciere wrote: »
    If your 'real world' is your house and your two neighbours, then I don't know, maybe :j


    If you live in the middle of nowhere, with no wi-fi channels around, best practise would be to stick to channels 1, 6 and 11, as you maximise the number of non-overlapping channels available for future use.


    But in the real world, other people don't always set up their network channels using any kind of logic. If you're close to networks using channels 3 and 13, the best thing to do would be to use channel 8 yourself.
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