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FTTP - Any haggling against the BT Monopoly?

So I am lucky and unlucky in that I can get Fibre to the Premise, FTTP, ultrafast broadand at my new build house. I am unlucky because it is ALL I can get, no one else can deliver even standard broadband.


Hence I had a shock when I looked at BT's prices for broadband, even the cheapest package was £15 more than what I'm used to paying. I'm content with 36MB/s downloads, but for the bottom 50MB package with BT it's around £30 and with a 2 year contract!


So has anyone haggled on the prices OR the contract duration? And are there any incentives you've got from BT on FTTP packages? I see right now they offer Amazon Prime and some cashback via a reward card but that barely offsets the prices and the duration.



Also interested to know what we all think about the 2 year contract - my view is that it punishes the early adopters as prices will always be high when a product is new to market with little competition. I bet in a year the going rate will be 1/4 less, but anyone in it from the start is stuck!
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  • unforeseen
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    BT do not have a monopoly.

    You can pick any provider listed at https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttp-providers
  • Chino
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    unforeseen wrote: »
    None of which helps the OP because those other providers (assuming they will serve the OP's address) are either top-end consumer brands or business-centric brands that deign to sell to residential customers. Which means that none of them are interested in competing on price.

    FTTC does seem to allow providers to hit the sweet spot between speed and price. By contrast, FTTP seems an expensive luxury capable of offering speeds that few residential customers need (yes, I know those hoping to be able to stream games at 8K will disagree).
  • So I am lucky and unlucky in that I can get Fibre to the Premise, FTTP, ultrafast broadand at my new build house. I am unlucky because it is ALL I can get, no one else can deliver even standard broadband.


    Hence I had a shock when I looked at BT's prices for broadband, even the cheapest package was £15 more than what I'm used to paying. I'm content with 36MB/s downloads, but for the bottom 50MB package with BT it's around £30 and with a 2 year contract!


    So has anyone haggled on the prices OR the contract duration? And are there any incentives you've got from BT on FTTP packages? I see right now they offer Amazon Prime and some cashback via a reward card but that barely offsets the prices and the duration.



    Also interested to know what we all think about the 2 year contract - my view is that it punishes the early adopters as prices will always be high when a product is new to market with little competition. I bet in a year the going rate will be 1/4 less, but anyone in it from the start is stuck!

    First off it's not all you can get as there's Virgin (if they don't supply, take it up with them) and 4G (soon to be 5G).

    Who do you pay £15 for 36Mbps fibre? £20 minimum at the cheap end and BT do at least have good service to offset the extra charges.

    Amazon Prime and the £60 cashback is worth £5.67 a month over the 2 year contract which will offset the cost for you. You can always call them and ask.

    You wouldn't be 'an early adopter' as FTTP has been around for quite awhile. I'd bet that the price won't be 25% lower in a year.
  • JJ_Egan
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    edited 13 October 2019 at 2:29PM
    As above no monopoly and you are not an early adopter .

    OP would be better off asking Sky Plusnet Talk Talk etc why they will not supply FTTP .


    As to deals yes i pay under £7 pm for 80/20 FTTP .Plus Line Rental


    Bit sad this high speed rollout as so many dont want it .
  • Croft12
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    JJ_Egan wrote: »
    As above no monopoly and you are not an early adopter .

    OP would be better off asking Sky Plusnet Talk Talk etc why they will not supply FTTP .


    As to deals yes i pay under £5 pm for 80/20 FTTP .


    Bit sad this high speed rollout as so many dont want it .


    Sky are more or less there for fttp now area dependant.
  • JJ_Egan wrote: »
    As above no monopoly and you are not an early adopter .

    OP would be better off asking Sky Plusnet Talk Talk etc why they will not supply FTTP .


    As to deals yes i pay under £5 pm for 80/20 FTTP .


    Bit sad this high speed rollout as so many dont want it .

    £5? If that isn't a typo how did you manage that outstanding deal?
  • JJ_Egan
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    I am always nice to BT and do not make false accusations . Just noticed £5 is wrong should be £7 now .( The extra could be for anytime calls )



    (from bill
    • Broadband and Calls £66.49
      This is the cost of your Package at £66.49 a month, charged in advance from
      20 Sep 2019 to 19 Oct 2019. This gives you:

      • Calling Plan Unlimited Anytime Calls
      • Broadband Superfast Fibre 2 Unlimited
      • Line Rental is now included in your package
      Yet to discover BT TV? See bt.com/bttv for a great TV service

    • new_ico_credit.png Special offer discount -£39.50
      20 Sep - 19 Oct 19 You get your Package at a special rate. We show this on your bill by giving
      you a refund of £39.50 a month

      Your special offer discount lasts for 18 months
    £26.99


    Minus ALR £19.99 pm



    Max + 4K uhd + BT Sport HD/ UHD £25 pm

    Max TV discount -£13 pm
  • Takmon
    Takmon Posts: 1,738 Forumite
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    JJ_Egan wrote: »
    I am always nice to BT and do not make false accusations . Just noticed £5 is wrong should be £7 now .( The extra could be for anytime calls )



    (from bill
    • Broadband and Calls £66.49
      This is the cost of your Package at £66.49 a month, charged in advance from
      20 Sep 2019 to 19 Oct 2019. This gives you:

      • Calling Plan Unlimited Anytime Calls
      • Broadband Superfast Fibre 2 Unlimited
      • Line Rental is now included in your package
      Yet to discover BT TV? See bt.com/bttv for a great TV service

    • new_ico_credit.png Special offer discount -£39.50
      20 Sep - 19 Oct 19 You get your Package at a special rate. We show this on your bill by giving
      you a refund of £39.50 a month

      Your special offer discount lasts for 18 months
    £26.99


    Minus ALR £19.99 pm



    Max + 4K uhd + BT Sport HD/ UHD £25 pm

    Max TV discount -£13 pm

    Your paying £26.99 for broadband and line rental which everyone on here will consider the price. It's misleading to deduct the cost of the line rental and say that's the price of the broadband because you can't get the broadband on it's own without line rental.
  • JJ_Egan
    JJ_Egan Posts: 20,281 Forumite
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    Amended to Line Rental + BB at £7 pm as that the price BT quoted .
  • Takmon
    Takmon Posts: 1,738 Forumite
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    JJ_Egan wrote: »
    Amended to Line Rental + BB at £7 pm as that the price BT quoted .

    Which isn't really that great of a deal because both Vodafone and Plusnet offer the same price to new customers plus they give gift cards which make it even cheaper than your deal.
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