Job advertised that doesn't meet the minimum wage.

CakeCrusader

Deleted%20User wrote: »

Or it could be they want someone younger.

The last 'low pay' job I went for which was 15K the person who arranged the interview (and was older themselves) asked me outright my age before I went in, saying all the telesales colleagues were younger. They actually apparently wanted someone older but the fairplay 15k tag remained for 35 hours.

Maybe. Maybe if I went to the interview they may offer me something else with a better wage? 14k for someone with a degree, almost finished a LLM and a postgraduate course is probably not that good.

MovingForwards

CakeCrusader wrote: »

Maybe. Maybe if I went to the interview they may offer me something else with a better wage? 14k for someone with a degree, almost finished a LLM and a postgraduate course is probably not that good.

So you are after an entry level fee earning role? Don't expect to be paid way until you are qualified, even on a TC there is a minimum wage which firms (mostly) stick to.

Grab the experience and possibly look to move on as a lot of firms have a maximum salary they will pay their unqualified staff; sorry but not many see degrees, LPCs and masters as experience. Look into CILEx qualifications as at least you can qualify as a Fellow CILEx, after more exams and experience. If you haven't done / started your LPC do CILEx first, then LPC as you automatically qualify as a solicitor (subject to taking / passing the right CILEx qualifications!) Yes, it all adds to your expenses, but CILEx qualifications and the associated experience is recognised by a lot of firms.

MovingForwards

CakeCrusader wrote: »

Yes, nothing came up though. I know, I'm not really in it for the cash, I do need to cover my bills though (the SRA don't like it when people fall behind and end up with CCJs etc).

I worked with someone holding off bankruptcy / insolvency who had to keep sending through proof to her regulator every month, she had to explain what happened to get to that point, but never got struck off.

A lot of firms also send round a yearly email asking all staff to declare IVA's, bankruptcy, CCJs etc to enable the firm to update their indemnity insurer.

There are plenty of us out there who got into financial poo and detained our roles.

My advice still stands to Google the firm and find staff reviews, you can also Google the firm and add staff salaries, that will give you more of an idea as unless you name the firm (not recommended) we can't say what the hours tend to be. TBH the more you write, the more I'm inclined to think of a few who are notorious for low salaries and high turnover.

CakeCrusader

MovingForwards wrote: »

So you are after an entry level fee earning role? Don't expect to be paid way until you are qualified, even on a TC there is a minimum wage which firms (mostly) stick to.

Grab the experience and possibly look to move on as a lot of firms have a maximum salary they will pay their unqualified staff; sorry but not many see degrees, LPCs and masters as experience. Look into CILEx qualifications as at least you can qualify as a Fellow CILEx, after more exams and experience. If you haven't done / started your LPC do CILEx first, then LPC as you automatically qualify as a solicitor (subject to taking / passing the right CILEx qualifications!) Yes, it all adds to your expenses, but CILEx qualifications and the associated experience is recognised by a lot of firms.

Yup, it's an entry stage job, it should probably still be minimum wage though. I've been working for charities giving advice for the past 7 years and it's kind of related (at a stretch), this is a totally different area though. The firm recruits their TC intake from their current staff so the job is a foot in the door as well as experience, and there's scope to do additional work for additional pay but I can't do this until mid next year once I've finished the LPC. I can't afford CILEx too, I work evenings and weekends in my current job, I dropped a few days so I could do the course and I'm just about breaking even, there's no spare cash for anything else.

CakeCrusader

MovingForwards wrote: »

I worked with someone holding off bankruptcy / insolvency who had to keep sending through proof to her regulator every month, she had to explain what happened to get to that point, but never got struck off.

A lot of firms also send round a yearly email asking all staff to declare IVA's, bankruptcy, CCJs etc to enable the firm to update their indemnity insurer.

There are plenty of us out there who got into financial poo and detained our roles.

My advice still stands to Google the firm and find staff reviews, you can also Google the firm and add staff salaries, that will give you more of an idea as unless you name the firm (not recommended) we can't say what the hours tend to be. TBH the more you write, the more I'm inclined to think of a few who are notorious for low salaries and high turnover.

I've been in the financial poo before thanks to an ex and it's not nice. It took a while to pay everything off and to clean up my credit report and I'm very reluctant to go down this road again. I've looked online and there's absolutely nothing <helpful>. It's a legal aid firm so I'm not expecting to earn big bucks, it's not what I'm looking for and I follow enough people on Twitter to know there's massive issues with pay in this area. I'm tempted to keep my current job and work around the firm if I can, at least until mid next year anyway. If I work a couple of evenings a week and a day at the weekend (as well as Mon-Fri, 9-5/10-6 for the firm) things should be OK. I'll speak to the partner when I go in and take it from there.

MovingForwards

There hasn't been money in legal aid for years, people do that one for the love of it.

If you can keep your other work, that will keep you afloat.

Some firms pay for the CILEx course, but that means you are tied into them.

You may enjoy the role, I wanted a different area of law and got my foot in doing something else, but stayed in that area, occasionally dipping a toe into what I wanted just to give me a break from total burn out.

Go into your interview, expecting minimum wage or a few pence above it, get experience, all the time thinking about the transferable skills you can take from it into the area you do want it will all work itself out in the end.

I always told my team I never expected them to stay and would agree time off for interviews when they were ready to move on; shame all the good ones left and the others stayed

CakeCrusader

MovingForwards wrote: »

There hasn't been money in legal aid for years, people do that one for the love of it.

If you can keep your other work, that will keep you afloat.

Some firms pay for the CILEx course, but that means you are tied into them.

You may enjoy the role, I wanted a different area of law and got my foot in doing something else, but stayed in that area, occasionally dipping a toe into what I wanted just to give me a break from total burn out.

Go into your interview, expecting minimum wage or a few pence above it, get experience, all the time thinking about the transferable skills you can take from it into the area you do want it will all work itself out in the end.

I always told my team I never expected them to stay and would agree time off for interviews when they were ready to move on; shame all the good ones left and the others stayed

My dissertation topic is legal aid funding cuts, the barristers on Twitter have supplied me with most of my research! Who needs money, as long as I can eat, pay my bills, have a holiday every few years that will do me just fine. It's sad that the area doesn't attract more people really, the other students on my course were all after the big bucks, which was depressing. Thank you, I'm really looking forward to it (I hope I get the job), it's a really interesting area of law.



Your job sounds like mine, only they promote the useless ones.

MovingForwards

CakeCrusader wrote: »

My dissertation topic is legal aid funding cuts, the barristers on Twitter have supplied me with most of my research! Who needs money, as long as I can eat, pay my bills, have a holiday every few years that will do me just fine. It's sad that the area doesn't attract more people really, the other students on my course were all after the big bucks, which was depressing. Thank you, I'm really looking forward to it (I hope I get the job), it's a really interesting area of law.



Your job sounds like mine, only they promote the useless ones.

Most people have always chased the high paying legal areas.

I'm out of it now and on to my next career, got too jaded and fed up with goal posts being moved! Didn't fancy requalification to carry on in a different jurisdiction, I've done 17 years; oddly enough my new role only pays slightly less than my last few earning / management position :rotfl:

I'm sure you will enjoy it,

Fingers crossed you get the role :j

CakeCrusader

MovingForwards wrote: »

Most people have always chased the high paying legal areas.

I'm out of it now and on to my next career, got too jaded and fed up with goal posts being moved! Didn't fancy requalification to carry on in a different jurisdiction, I've done 17 years; oddly enough my new role only pays slightly less than my last few earning / management position :rotfl:

I'm sure you will enjoy it,

Fingers crossed you get the role :j

I can totally understand why, my student loan from my LLB is 12k, theirs is 36k and growing, this is without course fees for the LPC. They are all younger too and haven't quite worked out that a 25k trainee salary won't stretch too far once they've paid for their rent/bills/tax/NI/student loan/food, and they will be expected to work every hour they can, it's worse for the London firms. I'm not sure I'd get any job satisfaction from business or property either, there are other areas that are far more rewarding. I think we need a change of direction sometimes, and yours sounds good!!



Thank you! :beer:

MovingForwards

How did it go CakeCrusader?