PCN for Stopping at Zebra Crossing

adamhd

Le_Kirk said:

If you receive a mediation phone call, just resist the temptation to agree to any deal OTHER THAN the one that says you pay ZERO.  It won't go against you in court; most defendants (in parking cases) refuse mediation.

But I'm under no obligation to actively seek it out?

D_P_Dance

Why would anyone want to?

Fruitcake

I see the latest VCS letter has the well known Fake Burgess signature at the bottom.

Le_Kirk

adamhd said:

Le_Kirk said:

If you receive a mediation phone call, just resist the temptation to agree to any deal OTHER THAN the one that says you pay ZERO.  It won't go against you in court; most defendants (in parking cases) refuse mediation.

But I'm under no obligation to actively seek it out?

Absolutely correct.

adamhd

This case was finally heard on the 30th July after being delayed due to lack of available judges. 

IT IS ORDERED THAT
1. The Claim is dismissed
2. The Claimant do pay the Defendants expenses of £85 within 14 days of the date of this order.

Jenni_D

Well done! ANOTHER VCS ONE BITES THE DUST!  

Coupon-mad

adamhd said:

This case was finally heard on the 30th July after being delayed due to lack of available judges. 

IT IS ORDERED THAT
1. The Claim is dismissed
2. The Claimant do pay the Defendants expenses of £85 within 14 days of the date of this order.

Yay!  Well done and thanks for updating.

I hope you’ve done the vital public Consultation and email to your MP that we are all discussing? Please share on other forums, social media and certainly with your MP:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6286801/government-consultation-re-private-parking-charge-levels-august-2021-please-bookmark-this-thread/p1

We are calling for everyone to do a full and robust response by email to the MHCLG, attaching evidence of what happened to you and what you think is wrong about £100 charges and fake debt recovery ‘fees’ that no PPC actually incurs or pays. 

We also need people to contact their MP to ask questions about why the MHCLG appear to have reneged on their March promise to cap parking charges, and why instead they propose to fund the race to court at £70 a time from victims, as discussed in various threads now!

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78517562/#Comment_78517562

Sorry if preaching to the converted but anyone reading this:
PLEASE DO THIS IF YOU WANT CONSUMER VOICES TO OUTWEIGH THE PARKING INDUSTRY’S GREED. WHICH SEES THEM TRY TO CLAIM MORE THAN THE LAW ALLOWS, FROM A REGISTERED KEEPER,

I just looked at the POFA Explanatory Notes (part of the legislation):

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/notes/division/5/1/3/3

221.Paragraph 4 provides that the creditor has a right to recover unpaid parking charges from the keeper of the relevant vehicle if the conditions set out in paragraphs 5, 6, 11 and 12 are satisfied. The creditor is not obliged to pursue unpaid parking charges through this scheme and may seek to do so through other means but they may not use the scheme provided for here to secure double recovery of unpaid parking charges (paragraph 4(6)), nor will they have the right to pursue the keeper, as opposed to the driver, of the vehicle where they have sufficient details of the driver’s identity. The right to reclaim unpaid parking charges from the vehicle keeper does not apply in cases where the vehicle has been stolen before it was parked, (paragraphs 4(2) to (3)), or in certain circumstances where the vehicle in question was a hire vehicle (paragraph 4(7)). The creditor may not make a claim against the keeper of a vehicle for more than the amount of the unpaid parking related charges as they stood when the notice to the driver was issued (paragraph 4(5)). 

patient_dream

adamhd said:

This case was finally heard on the 30th July after being delayed due to lack of available judges. 

IT IS ORDERED THAT
1. The Claim is dismissed
2. The Claimant do pay the Defendants expenses of £85 within 14 days of the date of this order.

Well done ..... why VCS take these rubbish cases to court is beyond the minds of normal people.

Redx

Congratulations , VCS lose yet again !!

Another one bites the dust !!  😜😜👍👍

adamhd

The first thing the judge asked was do you [VCS representative] intend to pursue the full £160 or just the original £100. As soon as they said the full £160 she basically rolled her eyes at which point I knew I was onto a winner. Frustrated that I couldn't recover more costs as I've seen others on this forum doing so. Apparently I'm not even allowed to claim for postage and stationary cost?