Modern quantum storage heaters

coffeehound

tubzy2001 wrote: »

I have an economy 10 meter but I’m on an economy 7 tarrif

Hiya. Do you know whether changes have been made at your home to ensure that the storage heaters are charged up only during the Economy 7 off-peak times?

If it is still the E10 timeswitch controlling when the SHs are charged, then some of the charging will be happening using peak rate on the E7 meter.

tubzy2001

coffeehound wrote: »

Hiya. Do you know whether changes have been made at your home to ensure that the storage heaters are charged up only during the Economy 7 off-peak times?

If it is still the E10 timeswitch controlling when the SHs are charged, then some of the charging will be happening using peak rate on the E7 meter.

Hello, no changes were made and I enquires about the storage heaters charging up for 10 hours and was told they shouldn’t need to charge up after 5 hours 12-5am.
I also asked Co-Op about them giving me and economy 7 meter and was told they don’t want me losing my afternoon and evening cheap rate. Not really cheap though is it

Gerry1

coffeehound wrote: »

Hiya. Do you know whether changes have been made at your home to ensure that the storage heaters are charged up only during the Economy 7 off-peak times?

If it is still the E10 timeswitch controlling when the SHs are charged, then some of the charging will be happening using peak rate on the E7 meter.

And if you're really unlucky, the night and day rates might be reversed. Were the 2410 and 9916 figures obtained by looking at the meter or at the bill?

In any case, you must think in kWh first, not £.

tubzy2001

Gerry1 wrote: »

And if you're really unlucky, the night and day rates might be reversed. Were the 2410 and 9916 figures obtained by looking at the meter or at the bill?

In any case, you must think in kWh first, not £.

These figures was given to me by a lady at CO OP energy after wanting the yearly consumption for switching. They have agreed to let me leave even with this massive debt. But I’ve contacted suppliers who provide economy 10 tariff and I was quoted £300 more a year.
Some of this is situation is confusing and I don’t know what to do for the best

Andy_WSM

jk0 wrote: »

Bungalows are always costly to heat because they have a lot of wall & roof area compared with the volume. I sold mine ten years ago. It was also electric heating, and the bills then were about £1000 pa. I was musing in the bath this morning what the present owner must be paying. I reckon around £2500!


Move to a flat IIWY.

There's no way I'd give up my bungalow just to reduce the utility bills! Insulate...and then look at energy saving measures. I had solar panels and heat pumps installed and it likely cost me less than moving home! Excluding the FIT payments my energy bills are less than £1k a year for 24/7 heating and / or air conditioning - and if I include the FIT's then i'm making a healthy profit which pays for the capital investment.

In the ops case they mention they are in an association property, so really the only thing they can do is make sure they are on the best rate possible. Be especially wary that economy 7 prices have risen as the "surplus" overnight has reduced now that we don't have coal plants burning 24/7. Then be even more careful not to use additional heaters plugged in on daytime rates - they will hurt your bills!

poppasmurf_bewdley

I have Heatstore storage heaters in my house.

I use only the one in the lounge, which keeps the room warm from first thing in the morning well into the evening.

My overnight electricity charge is a fraction under 9p a unit, and with the overnight water heating, my two winter quarters for the lower rate equals out at about £1 a day.

In my bedroom and bathroom, I use fan heaters switched on 10 minutes before use.

tubzy2001

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

I have Heatstore storage heaters in my house.

I use only the one in the lounge, which keeps the room warm from first thing in the morning well into the evening.

My overnight electricity charge is a fraction under 9p a unit, and with the overnight water heating, my two winter quarters for the lower rate equals out at about £1 a day.

In my bedroom and bathroom, I use fan heaters switched on 10 minutes before use.

I’m told that only having on 1 Or 2 heaters would make them work harder to try and heat the whole property and they reckon that would be costly too. Was told to have those heaters on a low temp

Robin9

tubzy2001 wrote: »

I’m told that only having on 1 Or 2 heaters would make them work harder to try and heat the whole property and they reckon that would be costly too. Was told to have those heaters on a low temp

Why don't you experiment? Keep a diary, read your meters regularly, note the weather.

Even the old fashioned way - wear additional socks, jumpers.

Talldave

tubzy2001 wrote: »

I’m told that only having on 1 Or 2 heaters would make them work harder to try and heat the whole property and they reckon that would be costly too. Was told to have those heaters on a low temp

If a storage heater is charging to full capacity and discharging fully, it can't get any more expensive.

Whether 2 heaters on full charge/discharge is going to cost more than 4 on half charge/discharge is probably only something you can determine by experimenting, as suggested above.

Gerry1

tubzy2001 wrote: »

These figures was given to me by a lady at CO OP energy after wanting the yearly consumption for switching. They have agreed to let me leave even with this massive debt. But I’ve contacted suppliers who provide economy 10 tariff and I was quoted £300 more a year.
Some of this is situation is confusing and I don’t know what to do for the best

You need accurate, up go date facts, but with all due respect you only seem to have a handful of fog ! It's like driving with a blindfold. There may well be a basic problem that's easily detectable, and with accurate info available you can make experiment and see the effects.

You're clearly online and computer literate, but you seem to rely on 'a lady at CO OP energy' rather than an online account. Why?? That's the first thing you need to sort out.

Secondly, can you access your meter daily? Check the times when each register is in use: the meter and / or the radio teleswitch will usually show this, or you can switch on a kettle, oven or whatever and note which reading is ticking over. Check that the number on the meter is the same as shown on the bill. Above all, you need to sort out this strange question of E10 and E7, I don't understand how you can it can be fish and fowl at the same time. You may well be paying for peak time storage heater electricity which is a real No No.

Do the neighbours have the same heaters working successfully on E7, i.e. with no afternoon boost? As previously asked, are you on the Priority Services Register? If so, you should be able to get your metering and timing checked.