Learner driver pratice: is my supervising driver suitable for the task?

Simby

Tigsteroonie wrote: »

The relevance from my perspective is that if the friend is uncertain as to the type of feedback s/he should be providing as a supervising driver, then they may similarly be uncertain of the insurance requirements when doing so.

While I understand posters may have been coming from a perspective of insurance is important and the op may not know the insurance requirements the op did not ask this question so insurance is off topic .. nevertheless the op was specific should her friend just supervise or instruct .

The op did not ask re insurance therefore insurance is another topic for another thread ..

Mojisola

Simby wrote: »

The op did not ask re insurance therefore insurance is another topic for another thread ..

There's no forum rule about sticking to the subject in the opening post.

Sea_Shell

For those who mentioned the insurance aspect, we're only trying to help, no need to berate anyone for it.

At the end of the day, it's no skin off our noses whether they're insured or not!!!

(Unless, of course, they happen to hit us!!!).

It's as if "they doth protest too much", rather than just say "thanks for the reminder, yes, we're all good"

Simby

I would ask even if you disagree you refrain from insults

I have reported your post as calling posts imbecilic is not in the spirit of MSE

Manxman_in_exile

Simby wrote: »

While I understand posters may have been coming from a perspective of insurance is important and the op may not know the insurance requirements the op did not ask this question so insurance is off topic .. nevertheless the op was specific should her friend just supervise or instruct .

The op did not ask re insurance therefore insurance is another topic for another thread ..

The OP voluntarily said that her friend did not own her own car and used hire cars and/or her dad's car. This quite rightly raises the question of insurance - is her friend insured to be supervising the OP whilst the OP is a learner driver. No posters on here asking the question about insurance are doing anything wrong. You obviously disagree and think that another thread should be started. Who should start that thread? The OP (it does not seem to have occurred to them that this could be a problem) or somebody else? If somebody else, how do they make sure that the OP is aware of a potential problem, other than posting on this, the OP's thread?


I look forward to being PPRd on the basis of this.

Manxman_in_exile

Simby wrote: »

I would ask even if you disagree you refrain from insults

I have reported your post as calling posts imbecilic is not in the spirit of MSE

As in #47.....

Mercdriver

Many people are unaware of insurance in regards to driving even after many years. They lend their car to a friend or relation from abroad thinking it will be fine. Now they wouldn't consider themselves lawbreakers either. Yet time and again here and on pepipoo you come across someone whose relation/friend or someone test driving a car has been caught speeding or going through a red light and find themselves breaking the law.

How? Permitting a driver without appropriate insurance to drive their vehicle. The sentence is the same for permitting as it is for committing the offence. So, OP, would you feel any guilt if you were not properly insured and your friend got the 6 points plus hefty fine. Or worse still if you had an accident and someone was seriously hurt? Who would pay?

There is another point too. I have mentioned it before. Mainstream car hire companies do not hire cars to people with an insurance endorsement. So they will have to hire cars more expensively for cars less well maintained and pay more for it through back street car hire companies who will nickle and dime them on return also.

Finally, like it or not in the UK, insurance is part of the every day routine of driving. It is better to understand it as soon as possible.,

Simby

I don’t think anyone displayed a lack of understanding that insurance is required in the uk.

No where did the op ask about insurance or give any indication they did not understand insurance was required.

The question was should the accompanying qualified passenger ( who is legally responsible) provide instruction while the learner is practicing?

There seem to be two views here and I hope the op finds a way forward with her/his friend and gets the practice they require,

AdrianC

You're right, Simby.

One view is that answers should only be incredibly precise and tight to the question actually asked, and not ever dare to mention anything else, no matter how relevant it may be thought to be, given what is or is not said in the question.

The other is that forums are for actually helping people.

I know which of the two I think is "imbecilic".

Mercdriver

Simby wrote: »

I don’t think anyone displayed a lack of understanding that insurance is required in the uk.

No where did the op ask about insurance or give any indication they did not understand insurance was required.

The question was should the accompanying qualified passenger ( who is legally responsible) provide instruction while the learner is practicing?

There seem to be two views here and I hope the op finds a way forward with her/his friend and gets the practice they require,

Sorry, not sorry, but I think it would be irresponsible not to draw the OP's attention to the issue of insurance. Do you know of a car hire company that allows Learner drivers to drive their cars? Pray tell us which ones, that would be useful information.

Perhaps the OP doesn't care about the possible ramifications for their friend, I don't know, I don't know the OP. If she does know the ramifications and is driving vehicles without the knowledge of the car's legal owner/keeper, then that is an extremely serious issue.