Injunction advice

NeilCr

Comms69 wrote: »

I'd avoid CAB, unfortunately they're overstretched and understaffed. If you have a legal question I'd recommend updating this thread

That's an "it depends"

Some CABs have access to solicitors so it's worth asking. We, for instance, have a family law solicitor who will provide a free half hour or so. Others can provide more

Other solicitors around here give free first appointments - definitely be a good idea to ring round in your area to see what's available

Personally, I'd recommend trying to get professional legal advice if at all possible - as opposed to relying on an internet forum for it where you don't actually know who is "advising" you.

However, I agree with the earlier posts about leaving it and moving on.

Pollycat

CBABBS wrote: »

Hang on guys,

I posted to ask for the advice and procedure of the injunction. Which I got,so thank you.

I haven't had contact with him in days and have no desire to contact him. I walked away long before I posted this and I'm not obsessed.

And there was an agreement - I wasn't treating him to an all inclusive holiday. I'm sure you and friends have decided to go on a holiday and one person pays on their card for the money to be reimbursed? I just wasn't so hot on chasing up the funds right away and didn't think I had a reason to. OK my bad. Clearly I don't expect people to be so mean.

I obviously trusted the wrong person. Got into a toxic back and forth (from both ends, not just mine) and was threatened with an injunction which bought me to this forum which has helped me with legal issues before.

Consider the issue well and truly left, and thanks for your advice. If I receive anything legal I will take it up with citizens advice.

Thanks all.

Actually...who should 'hang on'?
You got threatened with an injunction probably because you raised a police report.
You've admitted blackmail.
You've used other phone numbers to contact him because he blocked your number.
Your threats are a matter of record.

I'm not going to reiterate how many more mistakes you've made in this sorry mess.
Pity you didn't post for advice before starting on this course of action.

CBABBS

Pollycat,

I'm not sure of the need to quibble. I reiterate I was asking for advice regarding the injunction.

I've been called obsessed and harassing and I should seek counselling which I'm not going to agree with. I'm not sure a court would agree I'm harassing him when I've had calls from another number from him too - he got a friend to threaten me saying he's 'dodgey' and knows 'dodgey people' and 'knows where I live' which made my mum extremely nervous, as I live with my family.

He unblocked me and asked me to call him, I didn't so he sent me an antagonising vn and then blocked me. He finally got in contact again, asked to sell the full package to him for £350, I declined, he upped his offer to £400 and asked me to bear in mind he had to go through name changes (like that's my problem) and didn't like my answer so blocked me.

I'm sure this is enough to negate that I am truly harassing him or causing him any distress and that we are just both being immature should it go to the courts. I have stooped to his level, which I regret, and the blackmail was excessive but an impled threat on my safety at home?

But ultimately I came here to seek advice about what an injunction would mean for me. And for that I have the answer. I do appreciate your advice though, it's food for thought.

pinkshoes

CBABBS wrote: »

Pinkyshoes,

I wasnt silly enough to send him details or login information so looks like him and a mate have booked an additional one to spite me. Ie still antagonising me.

If he turns up at the same hotel I guess the harassment case falls into my hands.

We have had voice notes too and fro with him saying he will give me the money or other products for the sum of but I have deleted them all obviously not expecting it to go this far.
Hopefully I can retrieve them and send him an LBC if I can be bothered. Unfortunately he can't spell so is more of a caller than texter.

So just go on the holiday, take a friend instead of him and have fun.

Stop being petty and playing childish games.

If he turns up, ignore him.

Pollycat

I did call you obsessed.
Anyone who acts like you did is not exhibiting normal behaviour.

FTR: I've not accused you of harassment.
FTR: I've not suggested you need counseling.

It would be up to a court to decide if the course of action you've taken is 'harassment'.
I can't comment on whether his behaviour warranted your actions or not.
I do know that if a friend of mine had been in the same situation, my advice would have been to let it go. Walk away. Move on.

From what you say in your latest post, he's played you like a good'un.

FWIW, it sounds like you're better off without him.

End of as far as I'm concerned.

unholyangel

CBABBS wrote: »

Hmmm.

It just seems very unfair to me that somebody can decide not to pay what's owed, wind somebody up when they don't get their own way and the victim of it gets told they are harassing - for essentially 'biting'

Well you could enforce it via the civil courts. The issue is that in relationships (whether romantic or friend), people tend to loan on a casual basis with nothing precise agreed. "I'll pay it and you can pay me back later" or "I'll loan you £300 and you pay back when you can" is quite different from "i'll loan you £300 and you can pay it back at £50 a week".

But as a more pragmatic approach....if he had paid his share, would you have been quite happy to go on holiday together? Possibly (probably) sharing a bed? Some things in life are worth paying for despite whats legally or morally right. This would be one of them imo.

If you were to be charged with harassment then that might affect your job. But thats unlikely to happen if they communicate anything other than telling you to stop contacting them and leave them alone. An injunction won't - but those still have hearings to decide whether it should be granted.

CBABBS

Well I'd definitely be £750 and then some richer without him.

Couldn't find anybody to buy the full package or come with me unfortunately with summer holidays already booked and whatnot. But I met some girls on the plane and they seem lovely, will hopefully meet up with them tomorrow and feel less sorry for myself.

Besides his holiday to the same place (ibiza) will probably end up costing him double if not more than if he bought the all inclusive deal off of me at cost price so who's the real winner here.

Margaritas by the pool for me tomorrow :beer:

Comms69

CBABBS wrote: »

Pollycat,

I'm not sure of the need to quibble. I reiterate I was asking for advice regarding the injunction.

I've been called obsessed and harassing and I should seek counselling which I'm not going to agree with. I'm not sure a court would agree I'm harassing him - yes they would, quite clearly. the evidence is there. If it got to court, you should discuss an early guilty plea with your solicitor. when I've had calls from another number from him too - he got a friend to threaten me saying he's 'dodgey' and knows 'dodgey people' and 'knows where I live' which made my mum extremely nervous, as I live with my family. - Sorry you work in finance but live with mum? How old are you?

He unblocked me and asked me to call him, I didn't so he sent me an antagonising vn and then blocked me. - so BLOCK HIM He finally got in contact again, asked to sell the full package to him for £350, I declined, he upped his offer to £400 and asked me to bear in mind he had to go through name changes (like that's my problem) and didn't like my answer so blocked me.

I'm sure this is enough to negate that I am truly harassing him or causing him any distress and that we are just both being immature should it go to the courts. I have stooped to his level, which I regret, and the blackmail was excessive but an impled threat on my safety at home? - from some guy?...

But ultimately I came here to seek advice about what an injunction would mean for me. And for that I have the answer. I do appreciate your advice though, it's food for thought.

You might have the advice, but you aren't listening.

CBABBS

Coms69 you clearly aren't reading the whole thread.

I have no desire to contact him. The situation has been left. Days ago. He wasn't blocked because I had hopes, hopes he didn't shut down, that I would be getting my money. As I have mentioned in my previous posts there have been messages saying he will "sort it". He is well and truly blocked now - he is still antagonising me and our mutual friends are keeping me updated about his pathetic attempts of trying to get another rise out of me and we are all just laughing about it together.

This whole crazy girl thing is wearing a bit thin now. Like I said; I was under the impression I was getting money from him from the off. Why would I block him because he throws his toys out of the pram here and there? Trust me I wanted to kick off a lot quicker than I did but everyone around me told me to chill and just wait for my money. People a lot closer to the situation than the people here.

I got angry of being messed around and dealing with his rubbish in the end and so said I want my money or I will go to the police. He is a criminal with a child in the midst of it hence I had a legitimate reason to report him, even if it did come from a spiteful place.

And to be quite frank my age nor living arrangements are any of your concern.

I'm not sure why people are here to judge and make their outrageous comments. But this thread has definitely proved to be a lot less helpful and more annoying than the others I've had the pleasure of writing on. Which is a shame if you ask me. I'm sorry, how old are you?

Thank you for all of your advice up to now but it's now become unconstructive and the end of anything I'm going to get from this far as I'm concerned.

Comms69

CBABBS wrote: »

Coms69 you clearly aren't reading the whole thread.

I have no desire to contact him. The situation has been left. Days ago. He wasn't blocked because I had hopes, hopes he didn't shut down, that I would be getting my money. As I have mentioned in my previous posts there have been messages saying he will "sort it". He is well and truly blocked now - he is still antagonising me and our mutual friends are keeping me updated about his pathetic attempts of trying to get another rise out of me and we are all just laughing about it together.

This whole crazy girl thing is wearing a bit thin now. Like I said; I was under the impression I was getting money from him from the off. Why would I block him because he throws his toys out of the pram here and there? Trust me I wanted to kick off a lot quicker than I did but everyone around me told me to chill and just wait for my money. People a lot closer to the situation than the people here.

I got angry of being messed around and dealing with his rubbish in the end and so said I want my money or I will go to the police. He is a criminal with a child in the midst of it hence I had a legitimate reason to report him, even if it did come from a spiteful place. - if you say so.

And to be quite frank my age nor living arrangements are any of your concern. - That's fine.

I'm not sure why people are here to judge and make their outrageous comments. But this thread has definitely proved to be a lot less helpful and more annoying than the others I've had the pleasure of writing on. Which is a shame if you ask me. I'm sorry, how old are you? 34.

Thank you for all of your advice up to now but it's now become unconstructive and the end of anything I'm going to get from this far as I'm concerned.

That's fair. I think that you get better advice from strangers, than from well meaning friends