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Scumcos are now chasing boats with their scams...
Computersaysno
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Many councils and waterways authorities have now engaged scumcos to try to 'fine' boats £100 for mooring up for more than 24hrs.
A key scumco involved in this scam is District Enforcement. They even threaten to take a lien on the boat.....
Many of the people affected are iirc 'CM-ers' [continuously moving] who refuse to pay the £6k per annum that the waterways boards want to be on a mooring...
It's the usual story ...the authorities have a small problem and bring in a scumco sledgehammer to crack a nut.
A very small number of the CM-ers basically set up a 'boat squat camp' and rarely move....then the 'leisure/weekend' boat owners can't ever get moored for the night and they complain....
A key scumco involved in this scam is District Enforcement. They even threaten to take a lien on the boat.....
Many of the people affected are iirc 'CM-ers' [continuously moving] who refuse to pay the £6k per annum that the waterways boards want to be on a mooring...
It's the usual story ...the authorities have a small problem and bring in a scumco sledgehammer to crack a nut.
A very small number of the CM-ers basically set up a 'boat squat camp' and rarely move....then the 'leisure/weekend' boat owners can't ever get moored for the night and they complain....
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I read about DE getting involved in this 3 or 4 years ago, but have read nothing subsequently, do you have a contemporaneous link to the information?
Good luck DE in asking the DVLA for boat keeper details!
But I'm not sure if the Waterways authorities have a register of boat owners, although there might well be a GDPR/DPA issue in them divulging personal data to DE.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.#Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
They might also have a problem delivering docs.You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0
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No grace periods then ???0
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ANPR on a canal ???????
perhaps they will employ the ducks to quack on boat owners
Ralph:cool:0 -
Oh gawd. I sat on a bench in town the other day .... must check the post.0
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I'm sitting here on a chair in my own kitchen. Wonder if a scammer might fine me?!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
Isnt this set up with the canals and river trust0
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Apparently some councils own mooring sites??BrownTrout wrote: »Isnt this set up with the canals and river trust0 -
I read this story yesterday (took me ages to find it again)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/houseboat-eviction-canal-river-trust-ctr-steve-holder-wiltshire-a9087246.html
It made me do some googling. Yes I think some councils own sites as do waterways
The more general problem seems to be people with short mooring licences staying somewhere permanently and being impossible to move on.
I'll link another article if I can track it down from a "permanent licence" boat owner complaining about these "squatters"
It is an issue. In a fit of slight madness a few years back I considered buying a boat on our marina. Major drawback was that it didn't have a permanent licence and I wasn't going to get one. It meant I would have been at the mercy of the harbour master at any time (or at least once a year when licence came up for renewal)
While I get how people feel about PPCs yet again there is at least a part of this being about others wantonly breaking rules and solutions having to be found
Coupon-Mad I heard the C-M kids are sending a clamper in!
ETA
It's not the article I meant but it's the "continuous cruisers" mentioned here that can also cause issues. As per first link
http://narrowboatinfo.co.uk/narrowboat-moorings/
There are stacks of articles out there. Sadly, I got a bit engrossed reading some last night!0 -
From talking to people who have, have had, or are thinking about getting rid of their live aboard narrow boats, this is the least of their worries.
The Canal and Rivers TRust seems obsessed with fancy leaflet, concreting over towpaths and turning them into cyclists speedway tracks, while at the same time neglecting basic maintenance
https://narrowboatworld.com/11709-dams-in-distress
Apart form all that, arent the waterways awash with by-laws ?From the Plain Language Commission:
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"0
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