PCN: F1rst Parking - Hertfordshire Uni

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Shadk wrote: »

The first we heard was on 13/6/19 when they sent this letter

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So exactly as I said, you were sent a PCN in June as per usual and that was the chance to appeal.

The online appeal via https://paymyparking.net/Default.aspx doesnt allow me to appeal citing 'with debt collectors'

Of course; it's now August! So what though, these letters are standard guff.

Please read the NEWBIES thread post #4 as we don't need to spend any of our busy forum time talking about the various shades of 'ignore the debt letters'.

Shadk

Wrote to F1rst Parking with the following letter:

Dear First Parking

Re PCN number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I wish to dispute this PCN via your website but was informed I cannot as it’s with the debt collectors. The alleged breach occurred on 7/6/19 and the debt collector was received on 19/7/19. I wish to challenge this notice and refer you to the consequences of Halsey v Milton Keynes General NHS Trust if you refuse to consider an application outside your normal deadline.

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence, i.e.:

- If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

- If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner. If you fail to evidence the actual grace period that applies at this site or suggest that only one period applies, this will be disregarded as an attempt to mislead. In the absence of evidence, it will be reasonably taken to be a minimum of twenty minutes (ten on arrival and ten after parking time) in accordance with the official BPA article by Kelvin Reynolds about 'observation periods' on arrival being additional and separate to a 'grace period' at the end.

- in all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date.

Formal note:
Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future.

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Got a reply saying "it's too late to appeal and it's with debt collectors'

From reading all the newbie threads it looks like i put them on /ignore then.
Just wanna make sure i understood it all correctly

Umkomaas

Unless you can obtain a landowner cancellation, you are only 'interested' in, from here on, a formal Letter of Claim and/or a court claim via the CCBC at Northampton County Court. Come back on this thread if you receive either.

Egbert_Nobacon

Some 4 weeks ago waamo advised to approach the University for cancellation.

How did you get on ?

The NEWBIES tells you that this should be your first port of call.

Shadk

Had radio silence from the University thus far.

We may resend and see if they come back with anything