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Neighbours buzzing hot tub keeps putting off buyers

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  • need_an_answer
    need_an_answer Posts: 2,812 Forumite
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    OP.... is the tub visible from your garden or an upstairs window?

    I have to say as a potential purchaser of your property if it were visible then to those who don't like tubs it wouldn't matter if it hummed was switched on or in full flow when they viewed,its enough to put some people off.

    As I said earlier I'd run...so no amount of insulation would make it less noisy IMO...so I'm still of the mindset that you'll need to be appealing to those who are happy to have tub loving neighbours rather than trying to disguise it.

    Unless of course you fight fire with fire and install one too that's sold with the property!
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  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,077 Forumite
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    edited 23 July 2019 at 2:43PM
    Define an issue/dispute?

    I wouldn't say that a buzzing hot tub is either.

    I don’t know whether “issue” is the legal term (probably not), but if you lie when asked on the paperwork about a material fact which is a problem sufficient to stop people buying the property, then they can sue you to be put back into the position they were in had they not bought it.
    Two buyers have said they would not buy the property for this reason.
    I’m not saying it’s likely to go to court but if it were then I think it’s reasonable to assume the EA would not perjury themselves and would admit buyers didn’t buy because of the noise problem, backing up any claimant who said the OP knew about the noise issue on their property.

    A dispute (has not yet happened) but would occur if the seller complained to the neighbour and the neighbour refused to fix.
    Now when asked “have you had any disputes with your neighbour” then I’d say the two sides are in dispute (however polite).
    Again I would suggest the neighbour if called to court would not perjury themselves.
    This means that sometimes it’s best not to complain.

    The “issue”/ problem does exists and is on record with an EA.
    There is not yet a dispute over it.

    I know this is a money saving site but going out of your way to cover up an ongoing and permanent problem is morally bankrupt.
    That’s different to making bread or putting the coffee on.

    Shall we agree to disagree and say that the OP has now been sufficiently warned of the possible consequences and if in doubt should consult their conveyancing solicitor?
  • Simby
    Simby Posts: 240 Forumite
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    lisyloo wrote: »
    I wouldn’t go for your incentives if I were your neighbour.
    Do you mean you’d offer me money? It’s still a no.
    As you said incentive I presume you aren’t going to threaten to beat me up?

    I would have said offer money to the neighbour then I saw your post lisyloo, my advice would have been offer the neighbour 1k if he turns it off until you have sold then go up until about 5 k as a maximum

    Out of curiousity why would you refuse to turn it off for money lisyloo
  • bertiewhite
    bertiewhite Posts: 1,904 Forumite
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    Sea_Shell wrote: »
    It's like sitting in a sheep dip!!!

    I call it "Human soup" :)

    I didn't know our (rented) neighbours had one until the first hot weekend earlier on this year when the on/off buzzing was almost as annoying as the screaming kids using it, so I sympathise with the OP.

    Luckily, I don't think they can afford to keep it running constantly so it hasn't been used since.
  • brianposter
    brianposter Posts: 1,526 Forumite
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    Perhaps you should point out to your neighbour that you get to choose who buys your house, and that you are wondering whether to accept an offer from...…….
  • it's funny how people think hot tubs are manky yet go swimming, try on clothes in stores that others have tried on, walk barefoot on carpets where others walk barefoot, share condiments in restaurants (and take food from salad bars) lie on hotel sun beds, lie on hotel mattresses, handle money, pens etc without washing our hands etc. I don't have a hot tub but to be fair it's probably cleaner than most places we frequent.

    Op, get something noisy that irritates them so that they see your perspective.
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    lisyloo wrote: »
    Personally I would expect fluctuating traffic levels to be A normal feature.

    This buzzing is not normal household noise, is on for long periods and is permanent.
    Is it really permanent? Do all the owners of these things run them in winter? Would selling the house in the cooler months avoid the problem?

    It's not only hot tubs which make noise. When we installed central heating, I'd no idea our oil boiler would be so loud. The current neighbours don't care, although potentially it could affect them far more than us, but it's rarely active at times typical for viewings, or at this time of year.

    If they were to sell, should the neighbours declare this monstrosity, which sounds like a Boeing 737 and comes on at 6am? We could certainly drown out an electric pump with it, but equally, if asked, we would make sure it was silent whenever they had a viewing. Would that be immoral?
  • onwards&upwards
    onwards&upwards Posts: 3,423 Forumite
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    it's funny how people think hot tubs are manky yet go swimming, try on clothes in stores that others have tried on, walk barefoot on carpets where others walk barefoot, share condiments in restaurants (and take food from salad bars) lie on hotel sun beds, lie on hotel mattresses, handle money, pens etc without washing our hands etc. I don't have a hot tub but to be fair it's probably cleaner than most places we frequent.

    Op, get something noisy that irritates them so that they see your perspective.

    Most of those things present no real risk though, home hot tubs (rather than well maintained ones at spas, hotels etc) are well known to be causing nasty skin bugs and other issues:

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324721.php

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-19097187

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-childbirth-hot-tubs/hot-tub-birth-tied-to-life-threatening-infection-for-baby-idUSKBN1CS2KN
  • Perhaps it is not the 'noise' of the neighbour's hot tub that is putting off potential buyers. Perhaps the potential buyers do not wish to live next to the kind of people who would install a hot tub in the first place. Do the neighbours have Audis with personalised number plates as well?
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,077 Forumite
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    Simby wrote: »
    Out of curiousity why would you refuse to turn it off for money lisyloo

    Because I think it’s morally wrong to hide a permanent and on going issue (which it clearly is if being offered 4 figures to hide it).

    If it was causing my neighbours issues then I would call the supplier and ask about solutions.
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