Gordon & Nobel Collections

LW2154

Hi all, sorry for the new post, however I cannot find the answer I'm looking for elsewhere. I have received a number of letters from Horizon Parking for parking on private land which have been ignored. I have now received a letter from Gordon & Nobel stating I've to pay £1440 for 12 offences between 16/01/18 and 11/03/19. I have a couple of questions regarding this: I was not the driver although I am the keeper but should I email them stating this or not bother. Also does the amount seem excessive? I am in Scotland so I know the rules are different than other parts of the UK hence the uncertainty. Any advice would be awesome please. Thanks

waamo

Yes it may be worth telling them you weren't the driver. They won't believe you but it sets your position out.

Do not name the driver under any circumstances.

Can you provide evidence you weren't driving?

The_Deep

Have you seen this

https://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2014/08/gordon-and-noble-impersonate-sheriffs.html

LW2154

I can't prove I wasn't driving sadly no. I have seen the link saying they are cowboy's which are part of the reason I don't know whether to get in touch or not as I don't want to give them ammunition to starts bombarding me and I don't want to contact someone who isn't genuine. Confused!

Umkomaas

£1440 for 12 offences between 16/01/18 and 11/03/19.

Also does the amount seem excessive?

Not excessive for 12 'infringements' (not 'offences') - £100 a pop. Looks like they've added £20 per ticket, probably dressed up as some kind of dubious collection charge.

Can you state categorically that you were not the driver on 12 quite separate occasions? If you state that and it gets to court (unlikely in Scotland, but with multiple tickets, never say never), you're likely to have to prove it.

How come parking tickets have been racked up 12 times?

LW2154

I can say it wasn't me but cannot prove it. Without naming the driver and them being willing to pay the charges I have no way to prove it. I'm not sure how it has got to 12. I know any tickets that have been issued have been ignored following general opinion that companies in Scotland can't do anything about them.

The_Deep

Why does OP have to prove anything? Surely the onus is on the scammer to prove he/she was, or are things different in Scotland?

Umkomaas

The_Deep wrote: »

Why does OP have to prove anything? Surely the onus is on the scammer to prove he/she was, or are things different in Scotland?

My comment was in the context of the earlier suggestion that the OP writes to say they weren't the driver.

As this is a multi ticket job, with a greater possibility that it might get to court (recognising this is Scotland), can you see a Judge accepting a statement at face value, without question, that on 12 separate occasions over a period of 14 months, the defendant wasn't the driver.

That 'denial' being part of the defence is likely to have to be made under a Statement of Truth (if it's the same in Scotland as it is in E/W). IIRC there were a couple of cases reported here or on PePiPoo where Judges put the defendants on oath to confirm their denial. Extremely thin ice then.

My reasoning for asking the questions was to hopefully arrive at a position where I would be advising against making any statement on anything about the driver, unless the OP had categoric proof.

waamo

A lot of the time these cases boil down to credibility. If the judge (or sheriff in this case) doesn't believe you then you have an uphill struggle.

LW2154

Thanks for the help everyone. Fingers crossed this doesn't go to court and I don't have worry about it. Needless to say I drive me car and only me now and only park where allowed.

beamerguy

The_Deep wrote: »

Have you seen this

https://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2014/08/gordon-and-noble-impersonate-sheriffs.html

Maybe Horizon Parking should carefully read this.