Returning a clothing item with tags .. no receipt

WLM21
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What's the 'norm' when returning an unworn item which still has the original tags in place, but no receipt is available ?

This morning I wanted to return two items to my local Morrisons, which had never been used.

The customer services lady, who was serving me while talking on her phone (not good really) said I couldn't return them without a receipt.

So if I have lost the receipt .. that's tough I commented .. Yes !

I returned to the car and luckily found the receipt.

I have previously returned items, to Sainsbury's and they simply give a credit note (well card really) if no receipt is available.

I think I'll stick with Sainsbury's now.
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  • soolin
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    WLM21 wrote: »
    What's the 'norm' when returning an unworn item which still has the original tags in place, but no receipt is available ?

    The 'norm' is to refund on production of a receipt if that is what their return policy says. For stores that offer returns, and of course they are not obliged to do so if it is a change of mind, most I use seem to require a receipt including M and S, Tesco even Primark. You say that you will stick to Sainsburys in future, but their policy is also to require a receipt so it is no different, if you got a credit note on a return then you were probably lucky.

    EDIT; Link to sainsburys policy where it clearly states proof of purchase required.

    https://help.sainsburys.co.uk/help/refunds-returns/product-want-to-return-something
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  • pulliptears
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    WLM21 wrote: »
    What's the 'norm' when returning an unworn item which still has the original tags in place, but no receipt is available ?

    This morning I wanted to return two items to my local Morrisons, which had never been used.

    The customer services lady, who was serving me while talking on her phone (not good really) said I couldn't return them without a receipt.

    So if I have lost the receipt .. that's tough I commented .. Yes !

    I returned to the car and luckily found the receipt.

    I have previously returned items, to Sainsbury's and they simply give a credit note (well card really) if no receipt is available.

    I think I'll stick with Sainsbury's now.

    Look at it from Morrisons point of view. They don't know whether you stole that item and are bringing it for a refund to obtain the cash. It's a very very common method of theft.
    Certainly not worth boycotting a store over an employee doing their job ;)
  • davidmcn
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    edited 17 July 2019 at 12:28PM
    Look at it from Morrisons point of view. They don't know whether you stole that item and are bringing it for a refund to obtain the cash. It's a very very common method of theft.
    Indeed - M&S used to be known as a soft touch for this, as they were more flexible to customers who didn't have their receipt. So all shoplifters needed to do was take item off rack, remove security tag (if required), perhaps manufacture a "fault" by ripping off a button etc, and then bring it to the returns desk to convert it into cash (or vouchers, or whatever).
  • Undervalued
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    If the item is faulty they are are obliged to refund / replace and can only insist on reasonable proof of purchase. That could be a witness, credit card bill etc or even I suppose the shops CCTV which you could insist they disclose......

    If they are going above and beyond your statutory rights (eg allowing a change of mind) then they can insist on whatever proof they like such as a receipt.
  • JJ_Egan
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    Sainsbury just refused me a return with no receipt .
  • zoob
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    If the item is faulty they are are obliged to refund / replace and can only insist on reasonable proof of purchase. That could be a witness, credit card bill etc or even I suppose the shops CCTV which you could insist they disclose......

    If they are going above and beyond your statutory rights (eg allowing a change of mind) then they can insist on whatever proof they like such as a receipt.

    Retailer have up to 30 day to provide you CCTV footage and you
    may have to pay up to £10 for it, you also need to be pretty accurate with the timing you require
    After 30 days retailers usely wipe old CCTV footage

    Outside the first 28 days retailers have the option to repair, replace, repair, or refund and its there choice and not the customers what option they chose

    Witness of your purchase need to be independent of you and are willing to give there details as a witness if required and ideally have purchased something when there with you so at least they’ve proof they where there.
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    Why would you try to return something with no proof of purchase?
    EU expat working in London
  • Undervalued
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    zoob wrote: »
    Retailer have up to 30 day to provide you CCTV footage and you
    may have to pay up to £10 for it, you also need to be pretty accurate with the timing you require
    After 30 days retailers usely wipe old CCTV footage

    Outside the first 28 days retailers have the option to repair, replace, repair, or refund and its there choice and not the customers what option they chose

    Witness of your purchase need to be independent of you and are willing to give there details as a witness if required and ideally have purchased something when there with you so at least they’ve proof they where there.

    I think you will find they can no longer charge £10 (change from the DPA to the GDPR).

    Witness - not necessarily as prescriptive as you suggest. Ultimately it would come down to what is reasonable and who a judge believes "on the balance of probabilities" (i.e 51%). There would not be a presumption that it was stolen, only a tiny percentage of what leaves a store is stolen, 99% or more is bought and paid for. Obviously having a criminal record wouldn't help. Being a fine upstanding member of the community would! etc
  • davidmcn
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    Why would you try to return something with no proof of purchase?

    Because it's not always needed? I've just exchanged something (in Halfords) without a receipt.
  • always_sunny
    always_sunny Posts: 8,314 Forumite
    davidmcn wrote: »
    Because it's not always needed? I've just exchanged something (in Halfords) without a receipt.

    Perhaps they know you or you had a bank receipt? https://www.halfords.com/advice/customer-services/faqs/delivery-returns-faqs/can-i-return-my-item-without-a-receipt

    Usually most receipt would have a barcode to automate the return and very hard to differentiate between stolen goods and legitimate purchases!
    EU expat working in London
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