Smart Meters for Medium Pressure Gas Meters

Hi everyone,

Following a request for smart meters at my property, I have had a visit from an EON meter engineer who has advised me that I am unable to have a gas smart meter installed due to my meter being a medium pressure meter.

Has anyone else had this problem and are there other suppliers who have capabilites and resource to replace these meters?

Regards,
Josh
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  • thorganby
    thorganby Posts: 528 Forumite
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    They are only interested it meeting their installation targets!

    They need to fit as many as possible in the shortest possible time.

    Therefore they simply cherry pick the easy jobs and come up with some excuse for any job needing extra work, no matter how small.

    See a similar excuse from EDF here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6008957/gas-meter-ecv-means-smart-meter-cant-be-set-up
  • MeterMan
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    A third party fits medium pressure for E.On
  • We are with Bulb and they don't understand it.
    They sent a Siemens engineer twice to do it and he said Siemens don't do medium pressure smart meters.
    He did say Bulb occasionally use Cadent who might have smart meters for medium pressure but wasn't sure.
    I have given in discussing it with Bulb as they are clueless about the subject.
  • matelodave
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    Do you really care???
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  • Further to all your comments on Medium Pressure Gas Meters, I would like to point out that no smart meter has been created to deal with this type of pressure (yet). It is also the same for multiphase electric meters that most businesses use. If you wanted the meter changed to a low pressure set up to allow the smart meter to be installed, you will need to speak to your local gas operator ( ie: Southern Gas Networks) to see what can be done to make the change. 
  • Robin9
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    edited 30 August 2020 at 7:14AM
    parso2j said:
    ........................... It is also the same for multiphase electric meters that most businesses use. ................
    Not true - standard issue.  I have two buildings with them in.(installed 2014)
    It was businesses that led the way and there has been remote metering since the 1990's
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  • spiro
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    Robin9 said:
    parso2j said:
    ........................... It is also the same for multiphase electric meters that most businesses use. ................
    Not true - standard issue.  I have two buildings with them in.(installed 2014)
    It was businesses that led the way and there has been remote metering since the 1990's
    Are you sure you don't have an AMR (automated meter reading) meter rather than a SMETs meter.
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  • Robin9
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    edited 30 August 2020 at 8:12AM
    Yes they are AMR's but they serve the same purpose - the meter is read monthly and I get actual bills.

    And when I changed suppliers in 2016 the communications still worked - unlike my SMET1 at home !
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • m-holland
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    I'm with Octopus and have this coming Wednesday booked for my medium pressure gas supply to be changed to a smart meter. Both Octopus and their installers, Smart Metering Systems, are aware its a medium pressure supply and say it wont be a problem fitting a smart meter.
    Will feed back here as to how it goes
  • MeterMan
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    parso2j said:
    Further to all your comments on Medium Pressure Gas Meters, I would like to point out that no smart meter has been created to deal with this type of pressure (yet). It is also the same for multiphase electric meters that most businesses use. If you wanted the meter changed to a low pressure set up to allow the smart meter to be installed, you will need to speak to your local gas operator ( ie: Southern Gas Networks) to see what can be done to make the change. 

    Well you're incorrect the first part, there are very few gas meters in country designed to run on medium pressure, thats because they are very few 'appliances' that use gas upto 2bar pressure. 

    In fact, the majority of meters in the country (probably 99%) are designed to run at low pressure, it is the regulator that will reduce the pressure from medium to low in order for it be used. I do know that before the lock down E.on where recruiting internally for their metering work force to undertake the medium pressure training. 
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