Smoker beneath flat making like bad

Rusty_Shackleton

Benjamin_N wrote: »

It isn't fair to people to have them breathe not only carcinogenic fumes, but also drugs, which havent been fully dispersed into the air and most definitely active in the mind at the quantities that they come in.

Is your flat full of smoke, so thick that you can see it? As if there's been a a fire?

Because even then, I doubt your passive consumption would be enough to even trigger a drug test.

If there is visible smoke piling into your flat, then I suggest you contact your landlord for them to repair the hole in your floor!

EDIT: I thought this sounded familiar. OP what's the reason for you posting about this again, after doing so in January? Have you tried the suggestions other made then? Is there any new information?

shortcrust

Having looked the OP’s posts here and in the other thread I can’t help but wonder if anyone else would be able to detect this smoke.

z1a

Only OP has a problem here, I agree with others that HE should move.

-taff

The onus is on you to find a coping mechanism/solution, not them, as they are doing nothing illegal by smoking in their own place.
If your window is small and you're sweltering then get a fan that cools the air and keep your window closed.
If you are doing a lot of shouting in your flat then they can complain about you too.

markin

You want an ioniser for smoke.

£15
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Air-Purifier-Ioniser-Plug-Maxim/dp/B005614BXK

a.turner

-taff wrote: »

The onus is on you to find a coping mechanism/solution, not them, as they are doing nothing illegal by smoking in their own place.
If your window is small and you're sweltering then get a fan that cools the air and keep your window closed.
If you are doing a lot of shouting in your flat then they can complain about you too.

Is cannabis legal now?

Davesnave

a.turner wrote: »

Is cannabis legal now?

Police are not going to chase people in their own homes, smoking it recreationally. If they did that, they'd be fully employed without worrying about other crimes!

Unlike a few here, I have some sympathy for the OP, having lived in a top floor flat with 4 under me in the incredibly hot summer of '76. That place, which did have good sized windows, was stiflingly hot and uncomfortable as the roof heated up. However, it was my choice to live there.

It was also a cheap flat to heat, despite the lack of insulation. Air from other flats saw to that, along with the smells that emanated from them. If someone was frying onions, I might as well have been frying some too.

But although I have sympathy, and tinnitus too; for me, totally unrelated to stress levels, it is the sheer impossibility of altering others' behaviour which made me suggest that moving is the only realistic option. I moved out of that flat after 18 months or so. I didn't love it, but like a lot of things when young, it was a means to an end.

Benjamin_N

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

You previously smoked weed. Were you always miles from the nearest person, lest they be exposed to your 'drug fumes'?

The reality is that somebody is doing something obnoxious that affects you. That's unfortunate, but nothing we've not all done (irritating someone else, not necessarily with drug use!) including yourself. It's also something we all have to learn to live with, because you can't control others' actions all that much and most of us have no choice but to live in fairly close proximity to lots of different people.

With respect, passive smoking of weed smoke cannot 'trigger' anything that regular smoke wouldn't also. The amount of drugs you can consume from passive smoking in negligible (it's why drug tests wouldn't fail somebody for passive smoking). So, if the smoke is causing you problems, it's psychological. If you're receiving counselling/therapy for your mental health problem this would be a good thing to discuss with a therapist - you need a coping mechanism so that your response to the smoke isn't to make yourself ill.

I'm not trying to blame you, but the reality is that the solution is going to have to come from you. As far as I can see it, your options are:
- move to more appropriate housing, preferably a setup where the environment is more in your control
- technical solution such as an air filter in your home
- find a way to cope with the situation as it is

Not claiming it's easy or fair, it just is what it is.

I'm sorry but you aren't seeing this from my perspective.

This isn't some small amount of smoke coming in. It pours in for hours on end. Sometimes from 7.30am till 12 and it might stop for a few hours before starting again. Not only is this more than enough for a person to be triggered by a more that active amount of psychoactive substance (since it is still in smoke form) but secondarily enough carcinogenic cigarette smoke to be harmful. This is bad enough without a dissociative disorder and nobody should have to put up with that, when it costs the person so little to smoke out the side door 5 feet away from them, than severely harm another human being. I don't know any friend who wouldn't make that basic effort if it was causing great harm to another, because that's what good people do.

Imagine if there was a new born in my flat and it was a mother with here child, would people here be saying the same thing? No, it would be wrong. So why it is any different for people with mental illness.

It isn't "irritating", it's causing terrible dissociative episodes and much worsened depression. Secondarily your claim that very small amount of substances cannot trigger conditions is based on nothing. It's been shown in numerous drug trials that tiny amounts of previously used substances can activate neurological pathways in the mind (or pathway memories) that can cause a drastic change in consciousness with those sensitive people. Which is why the smallest amount of alcohol can caused protracted withdrawal in alcoholics.

I moved to a whole new area already to get away from fumes and it's just plain bad luck that it's happening again. Moving again isn't an option for a likely long while. In any case its just going to be some other poor soul i I moved.

It takes next to no effort for this person. Not only that it specifically states in the tenancy agreement that there is to be NO smoking indoors due to this very reason, there are a lot of woman and infants in this flat complex.

I appreciate your response a far greater than some of the other posts in this thread however.

Benjamin_N

z1a wrote: »

Only OP has a problem here, I agree with others that HE should move.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Without any input you say I should move, when it takes a person two seconds to go out the side door and cause far less harm to another human being at basically no expense.

I don't want to hear or see you in this thread again

Benjamin_N

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Is your flat full of smoke, so thick that you can see it? As if there's been a a fire?

Because even then, I doubt your passive consumption would be enough to even trigger a drug test.

If there is visible smoke piling into your flat, then I suggest you contact your landlord for them to repair the hole in your floor!

EDIT: I thought this sounded familiar. OP what's the reason for you posting about this again, after doing so in January? Have you tried the suggestions other made then? Is there any new information?

The post from January was about another smoker, which came inside though the venting. This is not from inside, that person causing that was on my floor and has kindly decided to go outside to smoke, of which I have massive respect for.

I don't even mind it occasionally because I can shut my window, but its every morning when I want fresh air, I have to be triggered, and have my day ruined. I haven't slept in nearly two weeks now and am getting very depressed at the situation.