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BT line without an address?

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Slithery
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edited 12 July 2019 at 8:30PM in Broadband & internet access
Is it possible to get a connection to the network without the land having a registered address?

There's a road on one edge of the property with poles carrying BT lines running along it, I'm not after anything more high-tech than copper :)

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  • Owain_Moneysaver
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    Yes. It's called non-served premises.
    Non-served premises are Sites which do not have specific postal addresses and/or are not for normal business or dwelling purposes. They tend to be sited in a street or footway or at a roadside and are normally unmanned, eg another Payphone Operators payphone sites, roadside locations, traffic control system sites etc.

    The following are examples of premises which may appear to be Non Served, however are in fact usually classed as normal business or residential premises. In all instances, Excess Construction Charges will apply as appropriate, (see Section 45)

    -Building site office - this would be provisioned as a normal served premises with a site office line as people are working on site.
    -Permanent or temporary exhibition site - normal temporary line.
    -Marina/boat moorings - permanently moored boats would be classed as a normal served connection, however any telephony supplied to a riverbank for instance would be classed as NSP.
    -Purpose built indoor shopping centre - normal connection for payphones and business lines (e.g. PSTN, ISDN etc).
    -Caravan parks, (service to a caravan or reception building) - either temporary or permanent connection
    -Remote measurement devices on a third party premises where the device is in a building which is served (i.e a shop) - normal connection on third party premises.
    -A remote barn conversion to living accommodation - standard connection charges plus any applicable excess construction charges.

    http://bt.co.uk/pricing/current/Exch_Lines_boo/1223_d0e5.htm

    If you can get the address classed as standard premises it will be significantly cheaper as you will pay standard connection fee plus any excess construction. NSP has additional costs including a non-refundable survey fee.
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  • Slithery
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    ...If you can get the address classed as standard premises...
    That's a route that I'm trying to avoid...
    What if I don't meet any of the above criteria?

    PS - My horses are addicted to Netflix ;)
  • iniltous
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    edited 13 July 2019 at 9:15AM
    The USO ( universal service obligation ) applies to standard residential addresses, anything else would be a business and NSP’s generally are business lines ( river level monitors for the DoE , that type of thing )
    If you wanted some sort of ‘off grid’ service , then it’s difficult to see how you could accomplish this , call an ordinary provider and as you cannot provide a registered postal address they will likely give you a ‘computer says no’ response, call a business provider and they may proceed but at NSP terms ( paid for survey in advance, entire construction costs payable ) and that’s if they would take an obviously residential customer trying to subvert the NSP system, there is also ‘temporary service’ to the likes of building sites portacabins during some construction project’ but again these would be through a business ordering provider not a residential one.
  • Owain_Moneysaver
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    Slithery wrote: »
    That's a route that I'm trying to avoid...
    What if I don't meet any of the above criteria?

    PS - My horses are addicted to Netflix ;)

    "Caravan parks" are classed as normal premises, and you may be allowed to put a caravan on your field "for security and animal welfare" - maybe only for a few months while foaling, but that's all it takes to get the line installed.

    Then remove the caravan and tie the phone cable to a tree.

    A shipping container may be a "building site office" for the phone line, and a "stable" for the horses and get through planning (or not be classed as a building or development in any case).

    Alternative is wireless broadband if available in your area. Or if there are houses nearby ask them if you can have a line terminating in their house, then extend to your field wirelessly.
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  • Slithery
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    edited 14 July 2019 at 12:12AM
    Thanks for all of the useful input folks, it's pretty much what I expected.

    I think that I'm going to go the mobile broadband route. At the moment I get a fairly low signal strength but when it does connect it's actually pretty quick. Something like this would fit the bill nicely but I'm in no particular hurry so I might wait for the 5G roll-out first.

    The speed from 4G would probably be quicker than ADSL considering the distance from the exchange, but I can't find a truly unlimited provider. So far giffgaff are at the top of my list for £25/month but they seriously throttle after 40GB.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Slithery wrote: »
    but I can't find a truly unlimited provider.

    Well 3 are truly unlimited providers of 4G data services and for less than GiffGaff
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