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Finding the Data Officer for Parking Charge Limited

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  • Coupon-mad
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    lass2019 wrote: »
    UPDATE: I WON

    Hearing was today at Clerkenwell & Shoreditch County Court, with Judge Paul. Claim Number F4DP3A8A

    Here's how it went down...
    The hearing was set for 12pm but we didn't get seen until 2.20pm! Was out by approx. 2.50pm

    The Solicitor for BW Legal introduced himself asked if I had any questions or if I wanted to talk - I replied no. As the time marched on he asked to have a copy of my Witness Statement which I gave him. The BW Legal solicitor who drafted their WS was off work so he was taking her place.

    When we went in, I felt a bit on the back foot since I didn't know how to address the judge properly or the correct etiquette - BWLegal man was bowing all over the joint. I was incredibly nervous and it took me a while to get my thoughts in order.

    The judge started with the Claimants case. For a while it was unclear whether they were disputing whether they recognised the ticket I had or disputing that I had a ticket. Either way, no ticket could be seen in the photos they had and the judge wasn't having any 'it may have fallen' excuses.

    I raised the point about the signage saying 'Registered Ticket Holders Only' with no requirement to display but the Claimants WS said I needed to be on a 'Whitelist' to qualify as 'registered' - news to me. At this point the Judge said there was a lack of info about whether the school has the authority to issue valid permits and who exactly is on the whitelist. He said if it wasn't for such a small amount he would adjourn the case until more info could be presented. He asked us if we were happy to push through even though 'you may be out of pocket'. He started to suggest that I may have a claim against the school and the claimants case seemed a valid one. It wasn't going my way.

    However, I had asked the Claimant to provide evidence of a contract between them (Parking Charge Ltd) and the landowner. This had been supplied to me in a hugely redacted form. But, and here's the glorious part, in THEIR OWN WS EVIDENCE a lesser redacted contract was presented between the landowner and Parking Advance Ltd. Who are they? Well they're not Parking Charge Ltd!

    The judge seemed to enjoy the 11th hourness of this. He asked the solicitor to respond because 'this devastates your case...your witness statement says the defence is wholly without merit, when in fact, it has rather a lot of merit wouldn't you say?'

    It went quickly after that and he dismissed the case.

    Afterwards the judge went on record to commend the BWLegal solicitor on his conduct and manner (which I took as a dig at my naivet!) and he wanted the solicitor to know the loss wasn't down to him but rather the person who drafted the WS. Bit odd this I thought. However, he had been quite nice, helping when I got flustered trying to find correct page numbers.

    Things I learnt: They judge will not have read anyones WS so don't assume they know what you're talking about - slowly guide them through your thought process and evidence and learn how to address them correctly!

    Thanks for the help everyone! May I never have to do this again! Phew!
    Haha, brilliant! Well done on seeing it through and winning, and having a success story to recount over Christmas.

    ANOTHER PCL ONE BITES THE DUST!


    Can you remind us of the location of this car park (name and street?) in case someone else gets a claim re the same place? Others can also win on the same basis as you did!

    :T
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  • lass2019
    lass2019 Posts: 17 Forumite
    The car park was in Eddington, Cambridge also known as 'North West Cambridge Development Eddington'. It's located off Eddington Avenue next to The University of Cambridge Primary School.

    Best of luck to anyone facing a similar situation in the future. And thank you again to all who helped!

    Happy New Year!
  • Coupon-mad
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    Thanks for that location info. Happy New Year!
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  • Neel1991
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    @lass2019 - If you do not mind. Can you please provide me some information about your case. Case number?
    I am currently drafting an appeal using POPLA against PCL for the one in Eddington. 
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 18 March 2020 at 5:50PM
    Neel1991 said:
    @lass2019 - If you do not mind. Can you please provide me some information about your case. Case number?
    I am currently drafting an appeal using POPLA against PCL for the one in Eddington. 
    The claim number is at the OP's post dated the 17th of December.

    If it's the same car park then highlight the fact that the contract is with a completely different parking scammer.

    I don't know if the OP complained to the DVLA and BPA about a lack of contract, but I suggest you do so anyway.
    Don't forget to complain to your MP about this unregulated scam.
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