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Electric vehicle investment

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  • daveyjp
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    Reaper wrote: »

    Then buying a house with a garage seems a good investment so you can charge it, if you don't have one already. I think houses with garages will go up in value as the date approaches.

    Development of EVs is advancing so quickly that in 10 years time charging an electric car will be the same as fuelling a petrol car.

    You will arrive at the converted petrol station, plug into a 300-500 kwh charger and drive off after 5 minutes with 500 miles in the batteries.

    Take up of EVs will be encouraged with low emission zone regulations which will affect most UK cities within 3 years.
  • redux
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    edited 6 July 2019 at 6:48AM
    daveyjp wrote: »
    Development of EVs is advancing so quickly that in 10 years time charging an electric car will be the same as fuelling a petrol car.

    You will arrive at the converted petrol station, plug into a 300-500 kwh charger and drive off after 5 minutes with 500 miles in the batteries.

    Take up of EVs will be encouraged with low emission zone regulations which will affect most UK cities within 3 years.

    Do you know the difference between kW and kWh?

    What thickness of cable do you need to pass the current?

    (old rough approximation 1000 A per square inch for copper)

    How many hundred houses would need to have most of their devices temporarily disconnected from the grid if half a dozen cars were all being charged at once?
  • Thrugelmir
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    daveyjp wrote: »
    Take up of EVs will be encouraged with low emission zone regulations which will affect most UK cities within 3 years.

    Selling price is going to be key. No mass market vehicles available as yet. Little point in stalling already what is a fragile economy.
  • doe808
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    And a think tank running in AJ Towers says that if you lock yourself in a garage with a Mercedes running on diesel or LNG you'll die whereas in a Tesla you'd merely get bored after you'd played all the games on the big screen,
    Screw the CO2 emissions we are all being poisoned by carcinogens produced by lying manufacturers who sponsor "think tanks" to demonstrate the truth of the phrase lies, dammed lies, and statistics


    Nah.


    I dont think the modern world is for you.
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  • buglawton
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    And a think tank running in AJ Towers says that if you lock yourself in a garage with a Mercedes running on diesel or LNG you'll die whereas in a Tesla you'd merely get bored after you'd played all the games on the big screen,
    Screw the CO2 emissions we are all being poisoned by carcinogens produced by lying manufacturers who sponsor "think tanks" to demonstrate the truth of the phrase lies, dammed lies, and statistics
    You clearly understand the modern world all too well Joe.
  • fwor
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    redux wrote: »
    It might, but not here, and I wonder how you would create the wind turbine blades without using oil and causing emissions, or mine transport and process the metal ores.

    Of course, oil-derived products are a valuable resource, and lots of oil is used in the process of getting more oil out of the ground as well.

    But oil is a limited resource and solar power is not in human terms - that fact alone is a good reason not to be burning oil to move cars about.
  • Reed_Richards
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    For two reasons,,
    Possibly a third reason...
    It is difficult to turn-off electricity generation at night (apart from solar electricity where it happens naturally). Hence you can buy electricity on a day/night rate tariff. If you charge your Electric Vehicle at night, when there is a glut of electricity, that's green, surely.
    Reed
  • AnotherJoe
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    Possibly a third reason...
    It is difficult to turn-off electricity generation at night (apart from solar electricity where it happens naturally). Hence you can buy electricity on a day/night rate tariff. If you charge your Electric Vehicle at night, when there is a glut of electricity, that's green, surely.

    Good point and there are several tariffs that work on that basis.Added to that there are some contracts where the energy companies actually pay the suppliers not to send them electricity at low times of demand. So "soaking that up" in an EV battery for later use has a double benefit.
  • Browntoa
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    I would look at small companies providing home charging points on domestic properties. There are a huge amount of these to be done and someone's going to become a dominant "brand"
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  • redux
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    edited 6 July 2019 at 7:13AM
    fwor wrote: »
    Of course, oil-derived products are a valuable resource, and lots of oil is used in the process of getting more oil out of the ground as well.

    But oil is a limited resource and solar power is not in human terms - that fact alone is a good reason not to be burning oil to move cars about.

    Your point is of course valid, but isn't addressing my question why are people pretending that electric cars and their supply of electricity don't cause any emissions.

    The marketing hype with use of the phrase zero emissions is false.
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